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MIKE BURN Generally Crazy Guy
Joined: 08 Nov 2001 Posts: 4825 Location: Frankfurt / Europe
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Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: If Michael Jackson is found guilty, will you still |
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Quote: "Hey in the real world, sleeping with preteens is considered a crime."
In my country this is NOT considered a crime.
A crime would be to involve a child below 16 years into clear sexual actions (touching, kissing, intercourse or telling sexual phantasies and showing porn material/movies).
To draw a line here is not easy, because me for example as a father of two kids I am used to the fact that they sleep at friend's houses, I don't know where and I can also not rule out that they see the parents of them probably naked, like I was not able to cover myself quick enough when kids slept in my house (I even didn't know that sometimes) and opened the bathroom door while screaming loud and finding that all funny.
Well, a trial is on the way and let's hear the EVIDENCE then.
As long as there is no evidence available, I stick to the "innocent until proven guilty" rule.
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bbchris Princess Of Hongkong
Joined: 01 Jan 2002 Posts: 11441 Location: Hong Kong
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Beau Jacks
Joined: 07 Jul 2004 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:44 am Post subject: Re: If Michael Jackson is found guilty, will you still |
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Let see if it's true. Billie Jean song is one I liked a lot, and nothing others stands out much. But in America the system should stand to its ideals which is innocent until proven guilty.
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 1513
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 11:27 am Post subject: er um |
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well its a different angle here Chris. The way I understand it, MJ was playing with the kids on their level, and when children see this in an adult they accept them. If children see you as a "parent" figure then their acceptance of you is at that level. I believe that jackson was re-living his childhood a bit with the kids, and that was that. I don't see any crime in that. I mean, the guy even climbs trees and sits there when he wants to be alone, plays on the rides etc etc. I last climbed a tree when I was 12 or 13. heh.
You know, I play with my cousin Amy like a kid - on her level. She is 11 (not 10). She sits on my knee, cuddles up to me, we sing songs together. I'm her pal. Of course, in my head I'm still me, I don't have a peter pan (or the female version) alter ego, so I dont feel like having a pyjama party with kids.
What jackson is doing may not be "normal" adult behaviour, but has he committed a crime? In my books he's innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
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Cybernetic Organism68
Joined: 17 Dec 2004 Posts: 384
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: er um |
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I don't know... This SAME thing happened 10+ years ago.
I think that is why everyone is all over it this time.
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bbchris Princess Of Hongkong
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 1513
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bbchris Princess Of Hongkong
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Cybernetic Organism68
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memphis mike
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 228
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: er um |
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a forty something man should not be sleeping with preteens that are not family,PERIOD.
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memphis mike
Joined: 21 May 2003 Posts: 228
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: er um |
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race card played----oj simpson freed on double homocide...
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yidneth A Spanish Fairytale
Joined: 12 Jun 2002 Posts: 780
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:39 pm Post subject: Re: er um |
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last i knew is that the judgement was delayed cos he was with flue...
so??
i like some michael jackson's oldies song (thriller video was cool) but not my cup of tea.
the least you can say actually is that he's weird.
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droolymutt No Underblurb
Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 6721 Location: Montreal, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: er um |
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Quote: if MJ was an unknown 47 year old chap who lived in a council flat in England and was discovered to be sleeping with preteen boys - they would arrest him - just for that - regardless of any 'sexual' inappropriateness.....
And just what would the specific criminal charge be?
Don't get me wrong.. - I don't approve of it. As a matter of fact, the very idea seems morally repulsive, because of the culture I was raised in.....
Having said that, if it was totally innocent,... - I can't see how it could be classified as "criminal"..
On the other hand, if there WAS sexual abuse, the guy should be locked in a room with the Fathers of the kids for an hour.
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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bbchris Princess Of Hongkong
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