What would it take ?

droolymutt · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

Just be nice, without being all flowery or wishy-washy..

Ignore insults...

Focus on the positive..

droolymutt · Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

The harmony is still here, Lana...

LanaCrowley02 · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 25

To bring about harmony within the independent community again?

Some people believe that when mp3.com died the community fragmented off so bad that there is now, no way to bring it back together. Others think that if we combine several bulletin boards and not have so many, that would do the trick ...

What do I think ? Well, I think all the different places have their niche, I know alot of people who go to like 30 or 40 boards a day, yeah that is a lot .. I do like 4 .. ha ha ha .. I think it would be nice to have a place again, that was like middle ground, where most everyone went .. as well as going to the other places they hang ... it would be nice to see some of the old faces we knew from the mp3 boards ..

What it boils down to is, I really miss the sense of harmony there was back then ... yes there was alot of fighting and so forth, but there was still harmony ...

what would it take to make that happen again ? is it possible ?

discuss....

Lana Crowley

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LanaCrowley02 · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 25

I dunno Drooly .... sometimes I think it is and others, it feels like nothing but a huge cluster of garbage ....

I have to go to 4 different places to see all my friends .. there is no place where we can all go and come together ... it would be cool if there was ....

Lana Crowley

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bbchris · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

I have to go to 4 different places to see all my friends

Wow you make it sound so easy to see all your friends!! I have to get on a plane to visit those who don't have Internet Connection (yes, they still do exist! Some of them are even musicians!!)

It sounds like Lana, YOU want somewhere where ALL your online friends can come and talk to you. That could be so easy, just hang out on one board and tell all your friends to visit you on THAT board.

bbchris · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

Ooh that sounded a bit cold my previous posting. Just wanted to say that things are as we perceive them. I myself don't see any fragmenting of the 'music scene'

I think it's naturally to have different 'areas' or 'clubs' to hang in - you don't see Marilyn Manson and Madonna sitting in the same pub for example. But I bet Marilyn Manson's mates hang out with him in his pub. Do you see what I'm getting at?

So lift up your spirits Lana, and focus on stuff that is more important to your life and will contribute to the lives of the people around you! You are one special lady that I know achieves that daily (it's ok to get side-tracked - we all do it! :wgrin

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MIKE BURN · Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

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Some people believe that when mp3.com died the community fragmented off so bad that there is now, no way to bring it back together.

Well, indeed the community "fragmented off".

As far as my observations go I would say it fragmented off into the amateurs vs. the "professionals".

You hardly see any artist/band member from self announced "professionals" showing up on any board we all know now. What has gone is the "we" factor. Nowadays everybody looks for "selling, selling, selling, #1, "me", "us"" instead of being interested in global exchange of new indie music.

Many artists were rather shocked seeing their music vanishing from their global #1 platform (MP3.com was simply the #1) and ceased to try out any new platform. They decided rather to look for own domains (i.e. MyXYZband.com) and do their own thing. That a huge portion of the former MP3.com catalogue were signed up by managers or promoters instead of doing it themselves contributed to the state of affairs.

I do not see the variety of BB-Boards as being the problem, it is the tenor of many artists who thought "they make it" through MP3.com. After the bubble bursted they try to "make it" on VH-1, Launch Yahoo.com or I don't know where.

Many artists who were on the old MPPP boards wouldn't have been there if the boards wouldn't have been under the #1 MP3.com roof. Who should find a EZ-Board? I have problems to find the Blah-Blah board using the "search" function of EZ-Board though.

Indeed there is a scene of steady posters and BB-addicts like myself who will always be around. Unfortunately many BB-Boarders became very 'cliquish' after the MPPP boards went away and concentrated on flame wars and the art of insulting instead of building a community. I know more than one board where a new poster who posts "check my band" or "check my new song" is banned right away, posts being edited as "SPAM!" or I don't know what. Those communities should rethink this unconstructive policy incl. "registered users only" crap.

You don't attract the people this way as well as it is counterproductive to found a "busy" board solely on "kissy, kissy" and "you play me and I play you" routines.

The new CNET site is somewhat "cold", new song approvals too slow than that anybody would promote CNET sites in the first place and there are also song upload limits and no lo-fi/hi-fi streaming. Not only because of that the CNET boards are lacking action, it is also the problem that they seem to be overmoderated at times (i.e. signatures gone) in favor of the same old same old troublemakers incl. the lame "freedom of speech" argument, who have nothing else in mind than blaming and insulting somebody. You don't see that here for example, because the anons know that the mods on this board can perfectly distinguish between the usual crap routine and simply new people looking with a fancy language for new contacts driven by the interest for other people's music and the possibilities of online collabs and gig possibilities, meet up's etc.

So this being said, I don't think that the cliques will come together on any EZ- or PHP board. IF, then they will do on a new "moneymaking" OMD site (not in sight HAHAHAHA) or any other hip OMD platform. One of the biggest problems of the "cliques" is, that they are not very open for discussions with new people. That's something you will at least here, on BLAH BLAH, not likely experience.

MIKE

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Netjams · Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 2308

some boards flush the stuff down to the Freak Zone to be recycled :grab

LanaCrowley02 · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 25

Chris, I didn't mean my real life friends .. I meant online Peers .. people who I enjoy talking to and bantering with ... I have alot of real life friends .. hell, I hardly have time for the internet .. which is why I made this topic ..

I just wondered what everyone elses views were on this subject .. didn't make it to get lectured ... just thought it would be a good discussion ... heh

Lana Crowley

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Wildfire Country Band

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Damien Project · Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 257

Lana....Seriously i think with all the boards now it would have to be like a Govt system and we would all have to elect Chris as the Pres

...lol..I am serious about the govt. and election part though...and even then someone would not be happy and start another board

Mark

www.soundclick.com/damienproject

bbchris · Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 3:04 am Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

hahahahaa Mark certainly has a point there!!

I'm kind of relieved myself to have different places to visit!

I always come here as it's my central place and I can get a little more attention (hahahahahahaha) But I like visiting other places to see what's being discussed too. If ALL those people came here - there would be TOO MANY threads and would be hard to keep up hahahahahaha

Different boards have different themes - eg. we have a more small talk combined with music threads and photos here at Blah Blah. We don't (well apart from Drooly! hahaha) ignore spammers, as we don't expect everyone to understand marketing or BB etiquette right from the beginning.

Plus this board I DO invite heaps of my real offline friends AND family to visit - it's a great way for them to see the photos!

Lana, you mentioned I hardly have time for the internet so really this is more about your time management? And if you hardly have time for your internet friends, then having one board is kind of meaningless as you're never there anyway!! :wgrin

Gently teasing you my dear.

LanaCrowley02 · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 25

Well, I have time for two, maybe three .. lol.. but 10 or 12 is just too hard ...

so yeah .. I am bitchin cause it is too hard to keep up !! lmfao

so, like all of you people, who I banter with, or who would like to talk to me or anyone else.... need to go sign up at Nut City .. help Eric, and see ME !!! heheh

that will solve all my problems don't ya see ... hehehe

Lana Crowley

Check out My band site:

Wildfire Country Band

Have you visited the New Nut City ? Now is the Time..

Being in love is the most fullfilling thing you can do in life.

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bbchris · Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:46 pm Post subject: Re: What would it take ?

hahahaha So your motive was to get everyone to go to Nut City!! Love it Lana!! You are funny!! :banana