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Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Just watched The Passion - a Good Friday review..... |
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The Aramic and Latin languages made the film, IMHO.
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:45 am Post subject: I still wont watch it |
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Yes, I know a great number who were moved. I also know I will be cringing with the violence.
I had a very peaceful mass, and sang my heart out with "were you there" I love that song.
Glad you could sit through it Chris, I know I couldnt.
cheers
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Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:30 am Post subject: I know |
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A Hindu friend of ours just called this morning - he was moved by it as well. But he also said it was too too awful. Smashing the crown of thorns down on his head, the carrying of the cross, then he falls on the thorns and on a rock, plus the whipping and poking and lashing. I know you may find it hard to believe, but I dont watch Quentin Tarantino films or any other that I know will be violent. Perhaps I will be moved, but I am already moved my Christ's life and death, and have been through my adult life.
Anyway, I read some books on the crucifixion many years ago - seems its physically impossible for the nails through the hands to support the body -body's too heavy and bones and tissues in the palms too frail - it would tear and the body would come crashing down. Scientists contend that they must've driven the nails though the wrists instead, plus used cords for support.
Then I found this:
www.apu.edu/infocus/2002/03/crucifixion/
They nail His “hands” to the patibulum. The Greek meaning of “hands” includes the wrist. It is more likely that the nails went through Jesus’ wrists. If the nails were driven into the hand, the weight of the arms would cause the nail to rip through the soft flesh.
Therefore, the upper body would not be held to the cross. If placed in the wrist, the bones in the lower portion of the hand support the weight of the arms and the body remains nailed to the cross. The huge nail (seven to nine inches long)2 damages or severs the major nerve to the hand (the median nerve) upon impact. This causes continuous agonizing pain up both of Jesus’ arms.
Once the victim is secured, the guards lift the patibulum and place it on the stipes already in the ground. As it is lifted, Jesus’ full weight pulls down on His nailed wrists and His shoulders and elbows dislocate (Psalm 22:14).3 In this position, Jesus’ arms stretch to a minimum of six inches longer than their original length.
It is highly likely that Jesus’ feet were nailed through the tops as often pictured. In this position (with the knees flexed at approximately 90 degrees),4 the weight of the body pushes down on the nails and the ankles support the weight. The nails would not rip through the soft tissue as would have occurred with the hands. Again, the nail would cause severe nerve damage (it severs the dorsal pedal artery of the foot) and acute pain.
The most telling is:
In order to speak, air must pass over the vocal cords during exhalation. The Gospels note that Jesus spoke seven times from the cross. It is amazing that despite His pain, He pushes up to say “Forgive them” (Luke 23:34).
Like I said, if people for whom it didn't dawn before get the message that Christ died this horrible protracted death for the sake of LOVE and PEACE and FORGIVENESS, then it's well done.
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