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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Here... |
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Here... |
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Quote: But it makes money for him because people buy into it.
Dumbass people.
That's not your opinion, Seismo - that's almost verbatum of what Moore says of those who put money into his rather large wallet!
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: Here... |
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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RonOnGuitar
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 5:04 am Post subject: Re: COuldn't resist.... |
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7. If Michael Moore had waited a few months, he could have included the part where I get him deported.
Hahahaha!
3. Where the hell was Spider-man?
LOL - Well, Spidey did set a new record, the films come and go pretty fast these days. But F911 is best compared success-wise to the current comedy "White Chicks" or past comedy successes. "JackAss" did better than F911 at the box office. The direct comparsion of F911 to other comedies is derived from Moore's claim that F911's correct nomenclature among the film genres is as a 'comedy". Also, when challanged about the sheer tonnage of factual inacurracies of his film efforts, Moore has a patented reply: "How can there be inaccuracy in comedy?" (verbatum quote from CNN)
Another interesting area is the political leanings of US telly late-night hosts. Letterman leans to the far left. His head-to-head competition - Jay Leno - is middle-of-the-road to conservative, more closely refecting America's majority political viewpoint. Leno is the consistent ratings winner. They are both good and funny hosts. Neither are as good as were the late night TV show pioneers and the 2nd generation of late-night hosts: people like Steve Allen, Jack Paar, Johnny Carson, Dick Cavett.
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:45 am Post subject: Re: COuldn't resist.... |
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Quote: Also, when challanged about the sheer tonnage of factual inacurracies of his film efforts, Moore has a patented reply: "How can there be inaccuracy in comedy?"
Wrong!
That qoute is in regard of his book, 'Stupid White Men', POLITICAL HUMOR!
This is the excerp from the CNN interview (directly from the transcript, linked here)
Quote: DOBBS: I was amazed. Salon.com just took you to task on this book, pointing out glaring inaccuracies, which -- what in the world...
MOORE: Some of these, I think they found some guy named Dan was named Dave, and there was another thing. But you know, look, this is a book of political humor. So, I mean, I don't respond to that sort of stuff, you know.
DOBBS: Glaring inaccuracies?
MOORE: No, I don't. Why should I? How can there be inaccuracy in comedy?
Context is everything, eh?
Quote: (verbatum quote from CNN)
Btw, this is the second time you have typed verbatim with a u.
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RonOnGuitar
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:02 am Post subject: Re: COuldn't resist.... |
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You are partially correct, Gal: I should have said Moore cites all of his stuff as "comedy" to avoid addressing his consistent problem of.....how could it be politely phrased? - being "factually challenged". You need not take my word on it, he raises the same "it's comedy" defense re: F911 when he was hyping up the film many months prior to it's release - this, on his own site:
"The whole story behind this (and other attempts) to kill our movie will be told in more detail as the days and weeks go on. For nearly a year, this struggle has been a lesson in just how difficult it is in this country to create a piece of art that might upset those in charge (well, OK, sorry -- it WILL upset them...big time. Did I mention it's a comedy?)."
Moore: F911 is a comedy movie
As for flipping out over typos and misspells. I posted a link re: "Netiquette" that might be of interest. Not only is it considered bad form to engage in the practice, but those who are experienced in on the internet just don't freak out if someone uses "your" for "you're" or "loose" for "lose".
Experienced "netizens" go by a basic rule that if you understand what a person intended, it's just no big deal. If the experienced person doesn't understand a term, they ask "I'm unclear about what you meant - could you please explain, thanx". In the context of something like a debate, it's considered a tacit concession of intellectual defeat. That is, having failed at logical refutation, a person goes off on the "nah-nah, you wrote "your" instead of "you're!!!" Such sentient observations are deemed as being the province of small minds.
And that's the reason I don't engage in that particular net-newbie silliness. For example, in one of Steve's rants he complained that I had "mis-spelled" some word or words. Although it gave me a bit of a giggle, I passed on pointing out the irony to him. My sense of self worth just isn't based on pointing out others typos or misspellings.
That also serves to highlight the double-edged nature of the particular web novice obsession:
Quote: "That qoute is in regard"
Quote: "This is the excerp"
Gee, now I've really boosted my sense of self worth!!!! Whew!!!
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: Re: COuldn't resist.... |
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Quote: You are partially correct
No, I am 100% correct.
Quote: I should have said Moore cites all of his stuff as "comedy" to avoid addressing his consistent problem of.....how could it be politely phrased? - being "factually challenged".
Wrong again.
He has yet to use the "it's a comedy"-phrase for 911 as defence for any alleged fact problem and you know it.
Quote: (well, OK, sorry -- it WILL upset them...big time. Did I mention it's a comedy?)
See? No?
Quote: As for flipping out over typos and misspells.
Look, I did not react the first time 'verbatum' showed up since it could hardly be anything else than a typo. The second time it was obvious that it was not a typo, so I pointed the particular spelling out to inform the writer (you) of the misconception. (This I did with small letters outside of the actual debate)
If that makes you feel embarrassed I will send a private message or simply let it be. Ok? It's up to you.
Quote: Experienced "netizens" go by a basic rule that if you understand what a person intended, it's just no big deal. If the experienced person doesn't understand a term, they ask "I'm unclear about what you meant - could you please explain, thanx". In the context of something like a debate, it's considered a tacit concession of intellectual defeat. That is, having failed at logical refutation, a person goes off on the "nah-nah, you wrote "your" instead of "you're!!!" Such sentient observations are deemed as being the province of small minds.
I know. The worst part is when the handle of a language is challenged without any examples whatsoever! Wouldn't you agree?
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That also serves to highlight the double-edged nature of the particular web novice obsession
Thanks for pointing out one of my typos, I will not return the favour.
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