US Senator tells Europe: 'get over' Bush election

[RonOnGuitar]

Well, this is interesting. Joe Biden has been a leading Democrat in the US Senate for a long time. And he doesn't hesitate to criticise President Bush. Senator Biden has even tried running for the Democrat's party nomination for President in the past. He would have been a much better choice instead of Kerry the last time around. I believe he could have won with a good lead.

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Biden to Europe: 'get over' Bush election





WASHINGTON, Jan. 18 (UPI) -- Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., urged Europe to "get over" the fact President Bush was re-elected and work with the United States on common problems.



"I spent a little time in Europe recently, and I have one simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President Bush is our president for the next four years, so get over it and start to act in your interest, Europe," Biden said during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing to confirm U.S. Secretary of State nominee Condoleezza Rice. "But that requires us to engage in the hoped-for diplomacy from the gentle lady from Stanford."



Rice was provost of Stanford University in Palo Alto, Calif., before Bush tapped her to become national security adviser in 2000.



Rice has vowed to work with Europe and other U.S. allies on issues, including Iraq.



Trans-Atlantic relations were hurt following the U.S.-led decision to invade Iraq.



2005 United Press International.

[Galmin]

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"I spent a little time in Europe recently, and I have one simple message: Get over it. Get over it. President Bush is our president for the next four years, so get over it and start to act in your interest, Europe,"

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I do not know where Biden has been, though it seems that he didn't spend just a little time in Europe, but very little time.



We know that George is your president! We know that George has been president the last four years and we know that he has been re-elected for four more years.



We know it and we accepted it long ago.



Some of us hold him in healthy contempt, though.

[Cybernetic Organism68]

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Some of us hold him in healthy contempt, though.

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You're not alone...



There are a shitload of americans who feel the same way.

[DreamTone7]

...they need to get over it, too.

[Galmin]

Get over what?

[MIKE BURN]

Europe does not 'get over' Bush and the wind is blowing

slowly in his face, more and more:

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France seeks alliance, not submission, with U.S.



From CNN Correspondent Jim Bittermann

Thursday, January 20, 2005 Posted: 3:38 AM EST (0838 GMT)



PARIS, France (CNN) -- The French foreign minister has called for "a new trans-Atlantic relationship" between the United States and its European allies.



Too many challenges face the world for the two not to work together in addressing them, Michel Barnier told CNN, but said France will not bow to the will of the United States.



"We are allies. Alliance is not submission."



Asked whether the French are willing to compromise, Barnier said, "The French can change and the Americans can change.

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The same is true for German / U.S. relations, according to

the recent speech of chancellor Gerhard Schröder.

[Cybernetic Organism68]

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...they need to get over it, too.

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Or else what?

[MIKE BURN]

Global poll slams Bush leadership (BBC)



More than half of people surveyed in a BBC World Service poll say the re-election of US President George W Bush has made the world more dangerous.



Only three countries - India, Poland and the Philippines - out of 21 polled believed the world was now safer.



The survey found that 47% of the 21,953 people questioned now see US influence in the world as largely negative, and view Americans negatively as well.



None of the countries polled supported contributing their troops to Iraq.



"This is quite a grim picture for the US," said Steven Kull, director of the Program on International Policy Attitudes (PIPA), which carried out the poll with GlobeScan.



"Negative feelings about Bush are high and are generalising to the American people who re-elected him."



On average across all countries, 58% of people - and 16 out of 21 countries polled - said they believed Mr Bush's re-election to the White House made the world more dangerous.



Most negative feelings were found in Western European, Latin American and Muslim countries.



They include traditional US allies such as Germany, France, Britain and Italy as well as neighbours Canada and Mexico.



The only European country to buck the trend was Poland, one of the new members of the European Union, which gave the thumbs up to both President Bush and the US.



Turkey topped the anti-Bush list, with 82% believing his re-election would be negative for global security.



The result is bad news for the president as Turkey is a US ally and the only Muslim member of Nato, says the BBC's Chris Morris in Brussels.



Other predominantly Muslim countries - Indonesia and Lebanon - were also high up the list.



But, any warmer feelings in Indonesia towards the US following its tsunami relief operations would not show up as the poll was carried out before the disaster struck, says the BBC's Dan Isaacs.



Economic boom



Anti-Bush sentiments also appeared to be strong in Latin America. Argentina, with 79%, and Brazil, with 78%, follow Turkey in the list.



This seems surprising given that the region has had less direct involvement in US foreign policy issues, says our correspondent.



Another surprise was India's support for Mr Bush. The poll found 62% believed his administration was positive for global security.



The BBC's Nick Bryant says the reason for this may be because the poll was carried out in cities where people have benefited economically from closer trade ties with the US.



Doug Miller, President of Globescan, said the findings "supports the view of some Americans that unless his administration changes its approach to world affairs in its second term, it will continue to erode America's good name, and hence its ability to effectively influence world affairs".



But Mr Kull says the results do not constitute a definitive world-wide majority, "suggesting there may be some underlying openness to repairing relations with the US".



PIPA interviewed between 500 and 1,800 people in each of the 21 countries surveyed, plus 1,000 Americans, in face-to-face or telephone interviews.



The interviews took place between 15 November 2004 and 5 January 2005.



The margin of error is between 2.5 and 4 points, depending on the country.

[DreamTone7]

What is not a surprise to me is the Western European opinion...continual negative press on the US will result in that kind of an attitude. Thank you Mr. Burns for helping out in this regard.



Interesting also is that claim made that economic involvement may have held sway in India...perhaps the same applies, at least in part, in Western Europe...as we are in many ways in the middle of a trade dispute with each other.

[Galmin]

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...perhaps the same applies, at least in part, in Western Europe...as we are in many ways in the middle of a trade dispute with each other.

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Why? Did Georgie (Mr Free Trade) raise the steeltoll with 800% again?

Edited by: Galmin  at: 1/22/05 3:10