APA claims racial hate crimes are rife in America

[NRKofOver]

DT, I really can't imagine how stating that many people who are sexually abused grow up to be stable adults somehow infers that child sexual abuse is not a problem. If I showed that many children who are physically or mentally or emotionally abused as children grow up to be well-adjusted, it doesn't mean that hitting children is alright.



Adults have an obligation to children to minimize as much as possible any psychological trauma. If the potential exists to create psychological trauma, then adults should refrain from that activity. In child sexual abuse let's imagine that only 1 in 20 ends up being terribly traumatized and dysfunctional as adults. That's one too many and that's every reason in the world to continue to state that pedophilia is wrong.



I guess what I'm saying is that the level of psychological trauma is of no consequence, child sexual abuse is a violation of an individual who is incapable of deciding for themselves what is best, it is simply rape. That's why it's wrong, that's why it will continue to be wrong.

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[RonOnGuitar]

I think more to the legal point, NRK, is the APAs "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" (DSM). The APA has been slouching toward removing pedophilia from that list of mental illnesses that should be treated.



i.e. "it's normal, mentally healthy"



How can anyone be blamed for doing what's "normal"?

[NRKofOver]

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The APA has been slouching toward removing pedophilia from that list of mental illnesses that should be treated.

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Well, I'd love to read some APA endorsed articles that lead to that conclusion, because I just haven't heard of them.



Regardless, there are many activities in our country that are illegal and aren't part of any mental pathology or illness. Is kidnapping another human being a mental illness? But it's still illegal and far from 'normal' or 'healthy'.

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[DreamTone7]

"Many victims of child sexual abuse show little signs of psychological trauma as adults."



It's in the wording of this. Psychological trauma is something that is on the inside...what shows on the outside may have no correlation at all. But to make this statement is to lead people to think that it does. Add to that the "little signs" part, and you are on your way to saying that traumatizing a child is not a bad thing...after all, they show no signs of it when they are an adult.



Do you see it now?

[NRKofOver]

Fine then, we get to the point where 'traumatizing a child is not a bad thing', which we've had in our history already, both legally and ethically/morally. But I still won't believe that the vast majority of people in America, the lawmakers, the police, the psychologists, or the Supreme Court will ever believe that raping a child is ok, regardless of the psychological trauma inflicted.

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[questionaire]

Well, I suppose I should be glad that it's the APA that's being deliberately misinterpreted, set up as a straw target, defamed and smeared in an ad hominem manner by Ron and his cohorts rather than me.

[DreamTone7]

Q - You forgot an "n" in your own name...nah, we won't go there.



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