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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: "GERMANY FOR GERMANS" Reply with quote

More official numbers...





From 1990 - 2000 70,000 Jews from the former Soviet Union ALONE immigrated to Germany.



Official numbers from HaGalil / Munich



HaGalil expects a three-fold rate in the next 7 years.



On their webpage you'll find a new article named



"Deutschland, das verheissene Land !"



...which means translated: "Germany, the promised Land"





Wow! Unreal, isn't it?

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NRKofOver



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: "GERMANY FOR GERMANS" Reply with quote

Mike, I don't think I was fooled. I obviously don't know the extent (or lack) of the neo-@#%$ problem in Germany. I tend to look at those fringe groups as a whole based on my experience in the US. They are small and inconsequential. Although they may make headlines occassionally, they do little in the way of significant change.

My music for the disenchanted masses

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Seismic Anamoly



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: "GERMANY FOR GERMANS" Reply with quote

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Seismo is twisting half-truths and facts with bad intentions.




But....I've learned from the undisputed Master - MIKE BURN. :aua



DAMN, it's gratifying to see the Attackers go on the all-out DEFENSIVE.



HUGE Thanks for confirmation that I've made my Point. You've made my YEAR!! Whoooooo-Hoooooooo!!! :thumb



:fg



:bcool













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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

I would say this board was never founded to experience that people threaten others in real life.



This is plain disgusting and why I'm leaving for today.

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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 7:37 pm    Post subject: Re: "GERMANY FOR GERMANS" Reply with quote

Well, all I know is that even the slightest reference to the third Reich here, voiced from a sympathizing politician, leads to his loss of any political function and future.



Denying the Holocaust, voiced/performed by private persons in public, means 2 years jailtime minimum.



Wearing the insignias of the 3rd. Reich, like it is ALLOWED in the USA (Swastika on flags or bumper stickers), means 2 years jail minimum and denial of civil rights (right to vote and so on).



That's how it is here.



You DON'T see and you DON'T hear anything, except of some singular eternal yesterday lunatics in the countryside and they are taken care of and from foreign media and some blind and deaf folks on messageboards, incl. U.S. patriots on a desperate road of self-defense for own failings.



I'm no die hard patriot and still there are NO flag parades in Germany, while I see official "hoo rah war heroes"- and "flag"-parades in the USA.



I would say anytime that I love my country but I would never say that I'm living in the "greatest nation on earth" or would tout about "our greatness" like it has been done and is still be done by U.S. governement officials and probably millions of Americans in patriotic drunkeness and hunger for war and domination.



Let me quote what a bright mind of German tongue once said about patriotism (and this is directed towards Seismic Anamoly, like most of my posts here today as an answer to the stupid crap he came up here recently incl. very serious threats directed towards Debbie Mannas, while he was believed to be a friend):





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"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice.



This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be part of so base an action!



It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."



-- Albert Einstein




What you read here is the psychological and ideological mindset of 99 percent of the German population today.

Edited by: MIKE BURN  at: 5/27/04 20:40
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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: "GERMANY FOR GERMANS" Reply with quote

You are just a big bully who looks out to harm people in real life you called "friends" before, just to make a patriotic tantrum and maybe making some points for your circle of patriotic "friends" you do show the threads here.



You did prove nothing except of human failure.

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Seismic Anamoly



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Uh-Oh....Mike's gotten upset at me....again. :bawling



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....this board was never founded to experience that people threaten others in real life.




Oh, REALLY?? :aua



That's EXACTLY what YOU did to ME (and Larree, and FT, and God knows who else at some time or another) just about this time last year - right here on THIS ILLUSTRIOUS BOARD - when you pulled this same old lying crock and jealously accused me of stalking, harrassing, threatening, etc. (when I never did any such thing), and detailed how YOU were going to make ME suffer for it. Now, it's the same old garbage all over again.



Give it a rest, for Christ's sake....and Get Over It.



Those parties YOU involved the first time with me know it's true. I'm sure it's in the archives somewhere but I ain't breaking a sweat to dig it out. However, I challenge you to show me a thread where I SPECIFICALLY threatened to do any type of harm, physical or otherwise, to anyone here. Show me where I said "I'm going to get you fired", "I'm going to bust you up", or whatever you're hallucinating.



You can't, unless you edit it....and seeing as how you love to edit my posts, I wouldn't be surprised.



It truly amazes me how, when things begin to turn against you or you are feeling vulnerable, you ALWAYS, WITHOUT FAIL, accuse the other party of intimidating or threatening behavior towards a friend of yours to attempt to smear the other party's character. Especially when I'm the "other party".



I guess I should be flattered. Reminds me of the little schoolyard brat who doesn't get his way and "takes his ball and goes home".



Friend? Some friend. You were never my "friend" by your own design and you know it; you couldn't truly befriend an American if your life depended on it. You did what you did with the ulterior motive of drawing praise from those non-Americans you consider real friends and making yourself "look good". "Let me collab with this pitiful excuse for a artist American and everyone will think I'm a sweetheart". You once told me my song "Liberation Day" just plained SUCKED out of hatred towards me, my culture, and, once again, jealously.



So, let the HATE flow then. C'mon....tell me about all the bad things you're gonna do to me to smear my name all over the internet. How you're gonna "bring me down". "NO Fear"...isn't that what you said??



Sad, but I really don't give a Rat's A$$ at this point.



YOU, Mike, are the ideal example of a HIPPOCRITE, and most everybody knows it...from years of experience dealing with it and reading it. :blah



And THAT'S what's TRULY "plain disgusting".



Now....keep it coming....my "friends" and I are FEEDING on it....and passing it around. :laugh



Ta! :w













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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:12 pm    Post subject: Seismo Reply with quote

You've stalked and threatened me thrice so far. You've posted the name of my chairman, my company and some obscure references to fbi sites. You don't need to say it. And then you edited out your posts. This is how bullies work - they play this mind-game psychological stuff in an effort to intimidate and then when caught out try to confuse the issue by saying "where did I actually say that". Well you said it by implication and the intent clearly shone through... :dunno



And so to the accusation that you have stalked and threatened, I for one, was a victim. I don't particularly care who did what to you, but I know what was done to me.



Believe me I too know exactly where you work and who you work for, but I would never stoop so low as to post it on the internet or use it in an argument I wasn't winning.



I also know what was done to someone else, cause they TOLD me first hand.

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Seismo Reply with quote

Feed Me, Debbie.



Feed Me.



:bcool













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Galmin
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

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FWIW, the US gives more direct aid to other countries than any other country on the planet...WAY more.


NATION        Foreign aid                        % GNP        per capita                                                                                       

Sweden                                 0.96         $        $201                                                                                

Netherlands                                 0.76         $        $162                                                                                

France                                0.64         $        $279                                                                                

Canada                                 0.43        $        $82                                                                                

Germany                                 0.34         $        $166                                                                                

United kingdom                                0.31         $        $52                                                                                

Japan                                 0.29         $        $94                                                                                

U.S.A.                                 0.15         $        $38                                                                                



FOREIGN AID DATA - MAJOR BILATERAL DONORS                                                                                                                               

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Draw your own conclusions about how its people feel about other countries...       
       

Humbled?                                               

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Nope. Not buying it this time, Galmin. EXACTLY what do those numbers represent. What KIND of foreign aid. I'm certain that if I tried (as you must have), I could find a category that put each one of those coutries on top in one way or another. For one thing, I saw no references at all on that link. Better find something to back those numbers up fast!

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Galmin
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote





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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

OK...I find it easier to buy that. The US does give the most...just not the most as a percent of GNI.

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Galmin
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:10 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Yes, the US give the most at the time in raw dollar amount.



They give the least as a percent of GNI (UN goal 0,7 US part 0,14.. but it is increasing! It has been down to 0,1%. Of course, times were better economically then...) and are defenitely not hot on the per capita chart.



When comparing foreign aid with f.i. Denmark, a country with about 5 million citizens, one has to remember that the US has about 290 million citizens (58 times bigger).



Denmark provided 1,6 million in foreign aid in 2001, the US 10,88. Per capita, Denmark is thus paying eight (8!) times more.

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2004 12:20 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

One thing I noticed is that only DAC contributions are included in these statistics. What about all the rest of it?

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