Scores killed at Iraq wedding...

[DreamTone7]

Another example, HKRC, that you enjoy believing whatever allows you to hate. Methinks you should consider the possibility that the videos were taken a long time ago. Interesting how they missed the part where bombs/missiles were falling. Until the original is inspected for age (this can be done with film), we will never know for sure. I didn't hear much protest from you when Berg and other Americans were tortured or killed. Seems like a double standard exists...and what the Iraqi terrorists did to those Americans was far more reprehensible in my opinion. One was an accident...the other intentional. Any court of law would recognize the difference (not that that makes any difference)...why can't you? If the media showed videos of humane treatment of Iraqis in prison I think you'd be real quick to point out the possibility that they were made specifically to show that, and dismiss them. Let's try and keep an open mind until all the facts are in, shall we?



...though, I will admit, it looks pretty likely that it was a wedding.

[HKRockChick]

Although none of this makes it any better, and I think its all bloody evil, lets get some facts straight:



(1) The mercenaries were dismembered after they were dead. Show me one article that says they were alive after the bombs hit their cars.



(2) There's something damn fishy about Berg's death. Why was his body never autopsied, why were his parents not allowed to view the body? Why was there no blood? Why was he interrogated by the FBI? Why did a terrorist use his computer? What was he doing in Iraq? Also strange coincidence that his father is rabidly anti-bush and is on the bush camp official list of people to watch out for.



(3) These people would still be alive if there was no illegal Iraq war. They were in a war zone of their own volition. The Iraqi people have no choice, they have been invaded, occupied, bombed and tortured, and continue to be killed everyday.



(4) Want to see double standards? Look no further than your own mirror and then a bit beyond, to the whitehouse.

[DreamTone7]

HKRC - "The Iraqi people have no choice, they have been invaded, occupied, bombed and tortured, and continue to be killed everyday."



...and, the part you conveniently leave out, will no longer be suffering under the gassing, bombing and torturing of Saddam. I actually believe that you think Saddam was an OK guy...is this true? In the end, lives will have been saved. Not justification...just fact.

[Seismic Anamoly]

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Want to see double standards? Look no further than your own mirror.....

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Edited by: Seismic Anamoly  at: 5/24/04 18:11

[HKRockChick]

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I actually believe that you think Saddam was an OK guy...is this true? In the end, lives will have been saved.

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There you go putting words in my mouth again. I condemn the terrorists in the strongest terms, but you go ahead and believe what you want. I actually think YOU think that bush and co are OK guys despite their lies and deceit. One is as bad as the other, both truly evil. Unfortunately the other is a world leader.







I don't think more lives will be saved. I think a lot more will be lost. Injustice has a way of spawning spiralling hate.

[HKRockChick]

is that your argument or is there something you have to say about the actual points I raised? Anything about fairness, justice, legality NOT exhibited by your leaders? or should this just be continued personal attacks that anyone disagreeing with the war must somehow love saddam???

[DreamTone7]

Actually I just tried to post something but ezboard politely ate it...



OK. I'll bite. Show me one post you started on this board that holds HALF the bile your usual ones denouncing Bush & co. do. Fair enough?



BTW, you have certainly been getting a lot of mileage out of this guy lately:



I don't think he should be called "seismo" though..."deb" maybe?



*Hopes she realizes I'm jerking her chain with that last one*

[DreamTone7]

I don't think so...but I think you might be just the man to do it!

[Galmin]

Sure will, if you explain to the survivors how bombing weddingreceptions actually saves lives.



I'll finish first.

[Galmin]

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In the end, lives will have been saved. Not justification...just fact.

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Has someone actually put up an equation so we know how many weddings have to be blown up until we reach break even?

Edited by: Galmin  at: 5/24/04 18:16

[DreamTone7]

Cheap, gradeschool debate tactics Galmin. Shame on you! We were talking about the invasion of Iraq...not the bombing of any wedding.

[HKRockChick]

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We were talking about the invasion of Iraq...not the bombing of any wedding.

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eh????



last I recall the wedding was in Iraq.



somebody pinch me...

[DreamTone7]

Please review context of thread...and I'm still waiting for your examples (see post at top of page).



...and oh, yeah, be careful what you ask for.

[HKRockChick]

If you read my posts carefully and with an open mind, you will see that I am ENTIRELY condemning of the terrorists and terrorists states. I am entire condeming of anyone who advocates murder and wars.



Despite all that has transpired you have strongly supported this administration and all it stands for. I have never seen you condeming the lies and greed that have led to this war. What do you stand for?



So answer me this: was the war based on lies? was it illegal? are people dying everyday? is there any guarantee that another dictator wont be put in his place, of far more fanatic faith than saddam? How was ossama trained and how did the taliban and saddam come to power?

[HKRockChick]

this thread is about the bombing of the wedding...



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