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bbchris Princess Of Hongkong
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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:42 pm Post subject: Personal morality and ethical question |
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With all your honour and dignity - what would you do? This test only has one question, but it's a very important one.
The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation, where you will have to make a decision one way or the other. Remember that your answer needs to be honest, but yet spontaneous...
You're in Florida. In Miami, to be exact. There is huge chaos going on around you, caused by a hurricane and flooding. You are a CNN photographer and you are in the middle of this great disaster.
The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot very impressive photos. There are houses and people floating around you, disappearing into the water masses. Nature is showing all its destroying power and is ripping everything away with it.
Suddenly you see a man, steering a big van. He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken away by the masses of water and mud. You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar and important.
Suddenly you know who it is - it's George W. Bush! At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him away, forever.
You have two options - you can save him or you can take the best photo of your life and career.
So you can save the life of George W. Bush, or you can shoot a Pulitzer prize winning photo. A photo displaying the death of a very powerful man.
And here's the question: (scroll down)
Will you take the photo in black and white, or colour?
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Rev9Volts
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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LarreeMP3
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:50 am Post subject: Re: Personal morality and ethical question |
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Well, Larree, George Bush is a moronic President for a moronic populace, presumably, this exactly what America is supposed to have.
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LarreeMP3
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Personal morality and ethical question |
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No. That's not true. All of the demos are so pissed off because of 2000 they simply can't see straight. And the rest of the world is reading pure BS and propaganda, imho.
If the demos could just face the FACT that Gore lost because he couldn't win his own damned home state of Tennessee in 2000 they might be able to get over it. IF he would have won in Tennessee, he would have won the White House. And if his OWN PEOPLE in Tennessee didn't want him, that should tell ya something. Period. Deal with it. TRUTH!
Gore lost in 2000. DEAL WITH IT!
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Seismic Anamoly
Joined: 22 Aug 2002 Posts: 3039
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:51 am Post subject: Disagree with ya here... |
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Quote: illiteracy is rampant
LITERACY RANKS
As a teacher, I will have to take exception to this one, Deb....the US is ranked 7th on the scale of national literacy based on PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL POPULATION (NOT total number; if you have more people, it only follows you will have more of the particular problem; some parents have complained that I am prejudice, being white, because 7 out of 10 of my discipline referrals are African-American students - guess what?? 73% of our total student body is African-American; those parents should have paid attention in Math class); my hat is off to Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Australia, The Netherlands and Belgium for ranking ahead of the US....
UNESCO also predicts an IMPROVEMENT in the percentage of the total US population BECOMING LITERATE through the year 2015....so how is this "rampant"??
I'm sure, like everything else controversial, there are numbers out there that have been crunched to show whatever results the presenter wants them to show, but I disagree that illiteracy is running amok here, regardless of what "they" say.
And, just out of curiosity, WHY does your Mom, Sister, and Brother-in-law want to live in this Country and bring in what appears to be the whole family for Christmas if it sucks so badly?? Hope it's a Merry Christmas, by the way; I LOVE Perdido Key in Florida, but it's a bit cold this time of year...gotta go south of Orlando to stay warm all year...
Just airing my opinion and defending my students; now; all ya'll rip it to pieces...
Whoops...did I say "ya'll"?? Is that illiterate??
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Edited by: Seismic Anamoly at: 12/19/03 7:02 am
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LarreeMP3
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Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:31 pm Post subject: Well, Debbie. I live here. |
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And YOU do not know SH*T about this place. Come live here for a few years and THEN you may complain to me about it. And I'm not talking about your opinion of your vacations here. I mean, until you come live here you do not know sh*t.
We're not perfect, but we are WAY better than any other country on Earth.
btw, smart girl. I have never been sued for sneezing. And I sneeze pretty damned LOUD. (sheesh)
Edited by: LarreeMP3 at: 12/19/03 3:40 pm
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: right |
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I apologise if I am wrong, but I've read and heard a lot about people who graduate from school who still can barely read and write, and indeed have run into a few as well. I'm not sure I believe any country has 100% literacy unless you count being able to read the alphabet and write your name. Certainly as the the only superpower in the world I'd expect the US to rank 1st in literacy.
All I'm saying is the US Administration is trying to get the world to adopt its system of democracy(!) and freedom(!). My position is, why should we follow?
Dreamtone you said
Quote: "Take care of it where you're at first....then come talk to us about ours."
Well I think the US should practice that first before trying to reform the world, is all.
www-personal.ksu.edu/~rcl.../nals.html
National Adult Literacy Survey overlooks rural illiteracy
by Anne Byers
The recently released National Adult Literacy Survey is the most comprehensive study of the literacy skills of American adults ever undertaken. Over 26,000 adults completed the survey which tested their performance on a number of literacy tasks. African Americans and Hispanics were oversampled in order to provide more stable estimates for these groups.
The researchers developed three scales ranging from 0 to 500 to quantify the prose, document, and quantitative proficiencies of the respondents. Each scale was divided into five levels. The study indicates that illiteracy is a greater problem across the United States than many had realized. Nearly 90 million adults or approximately 47 percent of American adults are at the two lowest levels of literacy. The adults performing at these levels do not necessarily feel that they need to improve their literacy skills. Two-thirds to three-fourths of adults scoring in the lowest level and over 90 percent of those in the second lowest level described themselves as being able to read and write English "well" or "very well."
Unfortunately, valid urban-rural comparisons cannot be made from the National Adult Literacy Survey. Although the rural adults were sampled in proportion to the fraction of the U.S. population living in rural areas, the total rural sample was not large enough to yield data which could be generalized to the rural population as a whole. By not oversampling rural residents, illiteracy in rural America has once more been ignored.
According to the Rural Clearinghouse report, Literacy in Rural America: A Study of Current Needs and Practices, rural residents make up 28 percent of the United States population, but account for 42 percent of the functionally illiterate. In all but seven states, rural illiteracy rates exceed urban rates. This data is based upon self-reports of grade level completion from the 1980 U.S. Census. The findings of the National Adult Literacy Study appear to support the validity of self-reported grade-level completion as an indication of level of literacy.
The study found that adults with fewer years of school were more likely to fall in the two lowest levels of literacy than adults who have completed high school or who have received some postsecondary education. Of adults with an eighth grade education or less, 75 to 80 percent are in the lowest literacy level and less than one percent are in the highest two levels. Sixteen to 20 percent of adults with high school diplomas are in the lowest literacy level, while 10 to 13 percent placed in the two highest levels. Of adults with four-year college degrees, only 4 percent are in the lowest level, and 44 to 50 percent are in the highest two levels.
It is also interesting to note that the concentration of several of the subgroups identified as having high rates of illiteracy are disproportionately higher in some rural areas. Rural literacy providers may want to consider ways to make their services more accessible to older adults, disabled persons, and minorities.
Rural states in the Midwest and Northeast have disproportionately more older adults than other areas of the United States. Older adults scored lower on average than younger or middle aged adults. The average score for adults over age 65 was more than one level below the average score of adults from 40 to 54 years old. The more limited literacy skills of older adults may be partly explained because they on average have completed fewer years of school than their younger counterparts.
Rural and farm populations also have a greater proportion of disabled persons. Agriculture is one of the United States' most dangerous occupations. Over 100,000 persons engaged in agricultural production become disabled each year. Other natural resource based industries, such as logging, coal mining, or meat packing, provide physically demanding and potentially debilitating jobs. In addition, non-work-related accidents in rural areas also result in a significant number of disabilities. Of the adults responding to The National Adult Literacy Survey, adults with disabilities had lower average literacy proficiencies than those without disabilities. Adults reporting hearing difficulties scored 25 to 29 points lower on each literacy scale than the population in general. The difference was greater for those reporting other types of disabilities, difficulties, or long-term illness.
Some rural areas have traditionally had large minority populations. Others are experiencing significant growth in the number of minorities living in their communities. African American, American Indian/Alaskan Native, Hispanic, and Asian/Pacific Islander adults were more likely than white adults to demonstrate lower levels of literacy proficiency. Minority adults were also more likely to have completed fewer years of school than White adults. In addition, many Hispanic and Asian/Pacific Islander adults were also likely to have learned English as a second language.
Additional publications looking at the National Adult Literacy Survey will become available throughout the next year. These reports will focus on literacy in the work force, literacy and education, literacy among older adults, literacy in the prison population, literacy and cultural diversity, and literacy practices.
For more information, write to Education Information Branch, Office of Educational Research and Improvement, U.S. Department of Education, 555 New Jersey Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20208-5641 or call (800) 424-1616 or (202) 219-1651 inside the Washington, D.C. area.
To order Adult Literacy in America: A First Look at the Results of the National Adult Literacy Survey ($12.00), call the U.S. Government Printing Office Order Desk at (202) 783-3238. The GPO stock number for this book is 0065-000-00588-3.
NALS: Adult Literacy in America--Executive Summary
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Rural Clearinghouse Digests are published twice yearly and focus on topics of interest to rural educators and practitioners. This article may be freely distributed as long as this notice remains intact.
Rural Clearinghouse for Lifelong Education and Development
Kansas State University
101 College Court Building
Manhattan, KS 66506-6001
phone (913) 532-5560
e-mail rcled@ksu.ksu.edu
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Statistics |
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Hey Seismic, that's a great statistics site you linked to.
Human Developement Index (HDI) is calculated with, among other things, the GDP (GDP as a factor for calculating literacy? Nevermind) and a factor of 99% (1 - For purposes of calculating the HDI, a value of 99.0% was applied.) was being used for all countries that you listed, Seismic. If education index was the only factor to compare with, you'll get this:
99:ers
Norway, Denmark, New Zealand, Netherlands, United Kingdom, Belgium, Australia, Finland, Sweden.
98:ers
There are none.
97:ers
Austria, Spain, Portugal, United States, Canada.
96:ers
Germany, Estonia, Barbados, Korea, Ireland, France, Iceland.
95:ers
Belarus, Latvia, Switzerland, Poland
Have you checked the HPI-2 (Human Poverty Index ranking)?
A composite index measuring deprivations in the three basic dimensions captured in the human development index—a long and healthy life, knowledge and a decent standard of living—and also capturing social exclusion.
01 Sweden
02 Norway
03 Finland
04 Netherlands
05 Denmark
06 Germany
07 Luxembourg
08 France
09 Spain
10 Japan
11 Italy
12 Canada
13 Belgium
14 Australia
15 United Kingdom
16 Ireland
17 United States
Wow.
Quote: I'm sure, like everything else controversial, there are numbers out there that have been crunched to show whatever results the presenter wants them to show, but I disagree that illiteracy is running amok here, regardless of what "they" say.
I hear ya
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