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memphis mike
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: And the keyword is... |
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Fortunately, under our system the President is limited to two terms.
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questionnaire
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Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2003 11:28 pm Post subject: Re: And the keyword is... |
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Yes, but the 'President' is just a puppet placed in office by forces that will still be around when his terms are up.
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memphis mike
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:09 am Post subject: Re: And the keyword is... |
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Are you saying our two-party system is converging?
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questionnaire
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 12:49 am Post subject: Re: And the keyword is... |
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At the deep politico-economic level - i.e. the extent to which traditional politicians are hamstrung by the logic of the global market and the dictats of corporations - yes, although their pragmatic approaches to managing the situation bear some notable differences in dimensions such as welfare, criminal justice and the general level of state intervention.
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 1:02 am Post subject: Re: And the keyword is... |
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I'm going to have to be a bit harsher about our two party system. For me it is essentially a one party system comprised generally of rich white males (there are a couple of women and a few blacks/hispanics/asians, but they are definitely not proportionally represented, and on top of that most of them are unbelievably rich). I'm not a fan of either party because I believe that special interests dictate entirely too much of what they do and the idea of representing the people doesn't really exist. Opinion polls exist so politicians can say the right thing to hopefully garner popularity. However, what they say and what they do are often quite different. As a nation we really should have progressed at this point to a multi-party system, but unfortunately most Americans take an us against them mentality and will stick with a party, not because it's the party that represents them the best, but because the opposition must be crushed.
Republicans/Democrats spend more time bashing each other, disputing their opponents value, rather than accentuating their own value. And it seems to me after 5 Presidential elections, most voting Americans like this approach.
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:48 pm Post subject: re |
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There is very, very little difference between the two parties. Most of what we see is for distractive purposes. Historically speaking, the candidate with the most money in his/her campaign effort wins. With this in mind, it is big business that really controls the election. They decide who they want to win (ie, whoever gives them the most leway/control when it comes to environmental issues, advertising rights, etc), then pump all their money into his/her campaign. Until we limit the amount of money spent on campaigns, and a way to effectively monitor it, we, the people, have less control over what happens than most of us think.
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Galmin The King has spoken!
Joined: 30 Dec 2001 Posts: 1711
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 11:23 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Quote: There is very, very little difference between the two parties. Most of what we see is for distractive purposes. Historically speaking, the candidate with the most money in his/her campaign effort wins. With this in mind, it is big business that really controls the election. They decide who they want to win (ie, whoever gives them the most leway/control when it comes to environmental issues, advertising rights, etc), then pump all their money into his/her campaign. Until we limit the amount of money spent on campaigns, and a way to effectively monitor it, we, the people, have less control over what happens than most of us think.
No Democracy, then.
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