France bans term 'e-mail'

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

when i said the officail catholic website i meant the encyclopedia site.

www.newadvent.org/cathen/

Lucifer

(Hebrew helel; Septuagint heosphoros, Vulgate lucifer)

The name Lucifer originally denotes the planet Venus, emphasizing its brilliance. The Vulgate employs the word also for "the light of the morning" (Job 11:17), "the signs of the zodiac" (Job 38:32), and "the aurora" (Psalm 109:3). Metaphorically, the word is applied to the King of Babylon (Isaiah 14:12) as preeminent among the princes of his time; to the high priest Simon son of Onias (Ecclesiasticus 50:6), for his surpassing virtue, to the glory of heaven (Apocalypse 2:2

, by reason of its excellency; finally to Jesus Christ himself (II Petr. 1:19; Apocalypse 22:16; the "Exultet" of Holy Saturday) the true light of our spiritual life. The Syriac version and the version of Aquila derive the Hebrew noun helel from the verb yalal, "to lament"; St. Jerome agrees with them (In Isaiah 1:14), and makes Lucifer the name of the principal fallen angel who must lament the loss of his original glory bright as the morning star. In Christian tradition this meaning of Lucifer has prevailed; the Fathers maintain that Lucifer is not the proper name of the devil, but denotes only the state from which he has fallen (Petavius, De Angelis, III, iii, 4).

how did a centuries old european term of lucifer get in the christian old testament? st. jerome...

1.because he could not find anything better

2. to scare pagans into converting to catholicism.

DreamTone7 · Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2571

Apparently, nobody read my post.

DreamTone7 · Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2571

Deb, the post that mentioned "intellectual" was a long time ago. If I am mistaken in what I said, I apologize, as I cannot find it.

Something else to remember is that there is a difference between knowing a path, and actually walking it.

debbie mannas · Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 1352

I have NEVER EVER used the term intellectual in connection with me, period.

"Something else to remember is that there is a difference between knowing a path, and actually walking it."

You're absolutely right. It's something we ALL must do.

And if that path means also speaking out against injustices instead of pretending its not happening [even if it alienates people], then so be it. Its MUCH easier to follow the path of least resistance - everyone loves you then, dont they?

:bleh

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

No trick question! You got it!

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

they probably have some different books in it don't they?

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

www.carey.ac.nz/mb/531/1/canon.htm

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

thanks. besides adding some i am surprised they did not deleat some just as a marketing strategy.

Galmin · The King has spoken! Joined: 30 Dec 2001 Posts: 1711

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When a country tries to block out influence from all other countries, I would say that they have a pretty high view of themselves....

Sure, though the origin of the word "mail" is French! In wich case they should be free to do what they want with it.

Why not pick a better example?

The Kyoto protocol? :laugh

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almost to the point of being zenophobes (isolationists).

Xeno, Greek origin. Ahem.

Interresting.

Isolationism:

a policy of nonparticipation in international economic and political relations.

Sounds a lot like the "America First" policy, that was so applauded before 9/11.

Isolationism equals Xenophobia?

WOW. I had no idea!

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German chocolate

?? I didn't know it was any good.