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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:01 pm    Post subject: Phony Europe, Blessed America Reply with quote

Written by Rabbi Rafael Grossman



April 4, 2003



“Phony Europe, Blessed America”



Our world is rapidly changing. America is being awakened from its long deep euphoric sleep. Our lovers of old are now, when you need them most, almost enemies. Western Europe enjoys its economy and freedom because of America. We defended them in a bitter war against the Nazis and Fascists and saved Germany from Fascist ruin and the French from vichy dominance. Save for England and little Spain, Western Europe’s phony preachers of democracy won’t help in the war against Saddam, Hitler’s successor.



And why should they do battle against terrorists and murderers, in European eyes only money counts. America and its Allies are motivated to oppose terror and were it not for 9/11, who knows if the Americans would worry about Saddam’s weapons of mass destruction. Eastern Europe’s countries, the former republics and satellites of the Communist Soviet Union, to the surprise of many have joined ranks with the United States in this war. They do so as the wounds of tyrannical exploitation are fresh in their memories. Only fools who forget Stalin would not want to destroy

Saddam, Stalin’s most avid fan.



Western Europe has also become home for reemerging antisemitism. From Scandinavia to the French Riviera, a hate Jew process grows stronger each day. While many attribute this to European compassion for Arabs and Israel’s treatment of Palestinians, the cause has little to do with either. European antisemitism is as old as the continent itself and today’s events are but an excuse to do what they love most, blame the Jews.



Hate for America is most often a byproduct of antisemitism. It’s the Americans who have declared religious and racial bigotry non-acceptable social attitudes and it is in the United States where Jews have achieved prominence in all walks of human achievement and endeavor. For hundreds of years, Europeans denied Jews access to Universities and to many enterprises. Most Europeans knew about the German plan to exterminate the Jews, but only a few courageous and righteous non-Jews mad any effort to save their neighbors from destruction. Alone, Hitler could not have killed six million.



American Jews find it difficult to understand how France, with its six hundred thousand Jews could be so hostile to the United States and so indifferent to the raging first of antisemitism. But no one should be

surprised. The French have a long history of hypocrisy. Its poets and artists extolled the virtues of love, defined as power and money, narcissistic fulfillment and hedonistic obsession. The French could do no better than make pretensions of peace but are delighted to see pro-Israel America fight a war all by itself.



Not alone did the United States save the Germans from the tyrannical rule of Adolph Hitler, the worst of all murderers known to man, but America’s Marshall Plan gave that cursed country a chance to live as no country before ever did. Germany’s economy became the world’s strongest and Germans enjoy affluence as few other societies do. Could it be that Germans oppose the war because of their great “love for peace?” The blood of World War I and II has yet to dry. German opposition to the war fits the old Prussian lust for power and admiration for crazed demagogues of the Saddam and Hitler caliber. The Germans would let the terrorists do their killing and the suicide murders perpetrate their horrors, as they love the smell of blood pouring and the sounds of children crying.



This is as good a time as any for freedom’s lovers to sound a patriotic bugle. Never mind the analysts and the paranoiac interpreters of America’s involvement in this war. I am an orthodox Jew, who believes that these United States of America are a Divine gift. On this day in America’s history, I proudly raise the flag of red, white and blue as my heart looks upward in prayer. G-d Bless America.



Shabbat Shalom

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:19 pm    Post subject: Israel's Nuclear Program Reply with quote

Today there was a documentary on TV on how Israel has been amassing WMDs and nukes and its the worlds best kept secret. Apparently last year they gassed some palestinians - resulting in people convulsing non stop. They said it was tear gas, but the antidote for that wasnt working...



It also told the story of one guy Mordechai Vanunu who blew the whistle on Israel's nuclear programs, and he's been jailed for it, which prompted me to go on the net and do a search:



www.nonviolence.org/vanun...index.html



www.nonviolence.org/vanunu/



The world will not be a safe place until leaders practice real justice and are seen to be just.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Phony Europe, Blessed America Reply with quote

*Orthodox jewish propaganda warning* :)

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:25 pm    Post subject: G-d bless Israel! Reply with quote

This is why WE LOVE being JEWISH



WE HAVE NEVER BEEN BETTER OFF!!!!



It's only TV and the media

That make people think

That the end of the world is coming.



Only 60 years ago,

They were leading Jews to their death

Like sheep to the slaughter!



No Country, No Army. 55 years ago!!



Seven Arab countries declared war

On the small Jewish State,

Only a few hours old!!



We were then 650,000 Jews!

Against the rest of the Arab world!



No IDF [Israel Defense Force].

No mighty Air Force,

Just tough people

With nowhere to go.



Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt,

Libya, Saudi Arabia, attacked all at once.



The country the UN "gave us"

Was 65% desert.



The country started from scratch!



35 years ago!! We fought

The three strongest armies in the Middle East,

And wiped them out in six days.



We fought against

Different coalitions of Arab countries,

With modern armies,

And masses of Soviet Russian weapons,

And we still won!!!



We have today

A country,

An army,

A strong Air Force,

A Hi-Tech Economy, exporting millions.



Intel - Microsoft - IBM develop their stuff here.



Our doctors win world prizes

For medical developments.



We made the desert flourish,

Selling oranges and vegetables to the world.



Israel has sent its own satellite into Space!!

Three satellites all together!!.



We sit proudly,

With the US, with 250 million people,

With Russia, with 200 million people,

With China, with 1.1 billion people,

With the Europeans -- France, England, Germany,

with 350 million people,

The only countries in the world

To shoot something into space!!



Israel is today

In the world nuclear power family

With the US, Russia, China, India, France, and England. [We don't

admit it, but every one knows...]



To think that only 60 years ago,

We were led,

Shameful,

With no hope,

To our death!



We crawled out of the burning ashes of Europe,

We won our wars here with less than nothing

in our hands,

We built an "empire" out of nothing.



Who the hell is Mr. Arafat

To make us Scared?

To make us ?



You make us laugh!



Soon we celebrate another Passover;

Let's not forget what the story is all about.

We overcame Pharaoh,

We overcame the Greeks,

We overcame the Romans,

We overcame the Inquisition in Spain,

We overcame the Pogroms in Russia,

We overcame Hitler,

We overcame the Germans,

We overcame the Holocaust,

We overcame the armies of the seven Arab countries,



Take it easy, folks,

We will overcome

The present enemies too.



No matter

Which part of human history you try!



Think of it,

For us,

The Jewish people,

Our situation has never been better!!!



So,

Let's Lift our Heads High,

Let's Remember:



Any nation or culture

That tried to mess around with us

Was destroyed -- while we kept going!!!



Egypt?



Anyone know where their empire disappeared to?



The Greeks?



Alexander of Macedonia?



The Romans?



Does anyone today speak Latin?



The Third Reich?



Anyone heard any news about it lately?



And look at us,

The Nation from the Bible,

>From Slavery in Egypt,

We are still here,

Speaking the same language!!

Right here, right now.



The Arabs don't know it yet,

But, they will learn that there is one God.



As long as we keep our identity,

We are eternal.



So, sorry for not worrying,

Not bitching,

Not crying,

Not being scared.



Things are O.K. here.



They surely can be better,



But still:



Don't fall for the media junk,

They won't tell you

That there are

Festivals going on,

That people keep on living,

That people are going out,

That people are seeing friends.



Yes, our morale is low,

So what?



It's only because we weep for our dead

While they enjoy the blood.



This is the same reason why,

We will win, after all.



A zeesen Pesach

You can forward this e-mail

If you choose.

To the whole Jewish community,

And to people throughout the world.



They are part of our strength.

It might help some of them

To keep their heads up high.



Tell them

That there is nothing to worry about.



Tell them to think BIG, and

To see the whole picture.



"See You Next Year in Jerusalem."

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: G-d bless Israel! Reply with quote

Quote:
Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine



Under UN Resolution 242, Israel is required by international law to withdraw from all the territories occupied in 1967, including East Jerusalem.



The United Nation's General Assembly has repeatedly condemned Israel's occupation of the territories as illegal (see UN resolutions 338, 1397, and 1402, among others).



Israel's continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.




Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories



Each day, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza violate articles of the 4th Geneva Convention on Human Rights, an agreement that governs wartime rules of engagement and to which Israel is a signatory.



Palestinian homes and agriculture fields are routinely demolished to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers regularly arrest and detain--often for years-- Palestinians without due process.



According to Amnesty International, members of the Israeli security forces regularly use torture and prolonged incommunicado detention against Palestinians.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: G-d bless Israel! Reply with quote

I really hate brainwashed fanatics!:toc

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:36 am    Post subject: Any excuse to hate jews eh? Reply with quote

Anyone who fooks with Yisrael is fooking with the apple of G-d's eye and is gonna get an ass-whoopin.



So: Now that we have taken over Bag, Dad, you guys can resume your spreading of antisemtic hate propoghandi



:)

Edited by: Social Spit at: 4/7/03 1:37:18 am
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: Any excuse to hate jews eh? Reply with quote

WOW Israel sounds so great. People from Israel are so wonderful. Their lives MUST be more important and have more meaning than other non-Jewish lives.



I'm just a humble Eurasian girl. I wish I was born Jewish then I could have been better than everyone around me. And everyone would actually pay attention to what I said instead of telling me I don't belong to the chosen race :(




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: Any excuse to hate jews eh? Reply with quote

Personally I think that Israel as a *state* should be dismantled immediately. Would be the first step towards world peace.



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The poster is a nice and friendly person. Funny too. And handsome. Yeah. For sure.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:05 am    Post subject: Typical racist crap from Zap. Reply with quote

Actually, the first step towards world peace will be the day that the terrorists stop blowing themselves up and killing innocent people.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:06 am    Post subject: Chris, you are way off base. Reply with quote

I do hope that you do not believe that garbage.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:23 am    Post subject: Hi Laree Reply with quote

Laree, I urge you to do a web search on US regime changes and CIA interference. I don't mean any slight to you, it's just that not many people in the US know about US foreign policy.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject: You do not give Americans much credit, do you? Reply with quote

I am well aware of the fact that we are not perfect, but we are a hell of a lot closer to perfect than most of the rest of the world. And today we are 100% in the right. We are doing the world a favor.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 12:44 pm    Post subject: The fact is... Reply with quote

...Israel has a large multi-cultural population. Jews, Christian, and Muslims live side by side and work together every day. There are churches and mosques all over Israel. Not just synagogues. So nobody thinks that they are better than anyone else. Israel simply wants peace. But until the terrorism against Israel stops, no one should expect Israel to be doing anything less than they are doing.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: The fact is... Reply with quote

Quote:
Israel simply wants peace. But until the terrorism against Israel stops, no one should expect Israel to be doing anything less than they are doing.


They could start with fulfilling the UN resolutions. I mean, look at what happened to Iraq even without a resolution for war!! ;)

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