I just signed the Hobos to 1Sound's Label Entry program...

droolymutt · Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 11:51 pm Post subject: Re: Ignorance Aint Bliss

Besides, If we DID get an offer (dreaming here), due to 1sound's efforts, I would WANT them to get their fair share.

Phil Frazier · Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Posts: 823

Drooly you have confirmed what I suspected all along. You didn't study that Contract nor did an Attorney explain it to you. All your answers confirm that. You just don't know what you are doing but you " feel like it's a good thing." Typical musician ignoramous.

Fair share? :toc

They would be getting about 4 times what they should be. Man, it's just pathetic. Musicians get screwed over all the time and the cry about in rivers but the irony is; it's their own freakin' fault. :hicks

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droolymutt · Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 1:21 am Post subject: Re: Ignorance Aint Bliss

hahaha...

Phil, no one has "screwed" me.

And no one WILL "screw" me, (unless they make it worth my while.)

Bottom line - once again.... - 50 bucks might get my band heard by some majors.

And I haven't signed Jack Squat.

And in the meantime, I'm having a blast with this....especially watching You get your panties all in a bunch about it....!!!!

lololol...

Gotta luvvit.....!!!!....... :popcorn

Phil Frazier · Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Posts: 823

Have you noticed that this thread is gettin scant attention? I wouldn't be having this convo with you at 1Sound BB becaus e I stronlgy suspect that they would delete it.

My point? Very few musicians learn about the music business. They think that if they get offers that an Attorney or Mgr. will sort things out. New flash! Those are at times the very people that help the musician get screwed over.

I get frustrated because I really try to eductate and have musicians educate themselves but very few do so. I hate to see them get cheated. What do I get for my efforts. A bunch of shite, mainly. It really galls me when musicians defend music sites that are actually taking advantage of them. They don't see the reality.

Oh, well man I tried to expalin a few basics to you. It seems that you think you know more than I do. I do get paid for consultations so I am not going to spend any more time with this.

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Phil Frazier · Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Posts: 823

Indirectly related to the topic. Don't misconstrue my objection to the 1Sound Shopping Agreement with the notion that I wish for 1Sound to fail. I would like Rod to change that Agreement but I know he won't.

I hope 1Sound Records succeeds in signing a few Artist and making a success with them. Also hope the site succeeds. Of course, I do. I do have material there.

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LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

...high on dust.

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Yup, yup, I think most of us have spent 50 bucks just going out for pizza, beer, a night on da town or a friendly eve of cut-throat poker at home, DM! Not a biggie in the grand scheme of finance!

I wouldn't share a big concern in worrying about points. You know Col. Tom Parker got 50% of Elvis ? It's a worry that *should happen*! It would be unrealistic for everyone who uses any like services to expect something exceedingly wonderful, but it can't hurt to have one more person plugging where you have not or cannot.

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Phil Frazier · Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Posts: 823

I already said the $50 don't mean shite. It's the freakin' terms of the Contract that are the screw job. I rest my case case about most musicians being ignoramouses &/or just plain stupid. :bonk

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LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

I already said the $50 don't mean shite. It's the freakin' terms of the Contract that are the screw job. I rest my case case about most musicians being ignoramouses &/or just plain stupid.

I agree with this statement 100%. And Drooly is living proof. The contract IS a screw job.

droolymutt · Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Not a big deal

uh, Larree...?

I don't think you're quite qualified to tell me about screw jobs.

Remember the mp3 auctions?

I spent 50 bucks, signed nothing, and may get some good mileage out of it.

Trust me, Sir, I am no fool with money.

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

You are a MAJOR fool because you think you are so damned signable. So how old are you? You are WAY over the age limit, I am sure. Believe me...after the "label" guys hear a few crappy submissions from the 1sound crew, they will be tossing all future submissions into the round file. You are totally ignorant as to how this biz works. You would be better off finding ONE entertainment attorney who believes in you.

btw, you have signed. In case you didn't know it, your "digital" signature is considered legal and binding. You are a blind fool. Good luck!

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

I don't have any regrets about that! It was FUN! I had a good time! The only reason I stopped was 9/11. So get a clue, drool. I would spend another 100K on mp3.com auctions before signing away my future for $50 like you did!

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I'm older than dirt, Larree....

I'm 48.

And I'm ugly.

I never said I thought we were signable.

We don't look like N'Sync.

We don't do the funny Hip-Hop hand routines.....

But we make damn good music.

Hey - look at all the action I'm getting just on the internet - with a stupid 50 bucks....!!!!!

Even you and Phil are going ballistic about it...!!

hahahahahaha......!!!

all this for 50 bucks?

Are you kidding me?

ok - gotta run.... - I have a lawyer from Sony on the other line........

(btw - I have NOT signed anything....)

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

And you have signed. A DIGITAL signature is binding.

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

...no attorney is going to try to shop you to a label because the attorney knows that the label will never let him or her back in the office ever again!

And that is not a diss on you or your music. It is simply reality.