World Leaders Mark Auschwitz Liberation

[John D Ranger]

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A day never to be fogothen!!!

Edited by: John D Ranger at: 1/28/05 4:42

[Rev9Volts]

yea yea yea..



How about what was it the 10 -20 million Stalin killed of his own people...



or what the Russions did to Germany after WW2?



what the Yankees did to Southerners during after the Civil War



or what American white men did to Indians?



or what Alexander the Great did to most of the whole world...



or what nature recently did to Indonesia...



innocent people have and will be continued to be killed...



or Rowanda....



just like the 2005 election for those who supported Kerry...



get over it... Hitler is long dead.....

[Rev9Volts]

Or what the Communist government did and is doing to Chinese…



Or what the Jews/Isrealites did to the Chaldeans, Amalakites, Amorites and a bunch of other groups of innocent people…



Perhaps as was in the Old Testament God punished them for their sins when enslaved by the Egyptions and Babalonians…. Maybe God was punishing them again for their sins by the Nazies… same as in the Old Testament… afteralll the jews say “God never changes. He is always the same”…



You know I have heard more than one German say… The jews were taking over all the businesses and making the Germans work for a “slave wage” while the Jews were getting filthy rich… They say Hitler could have never brainwashed a nation if they did not already have bad feelings for the Jews because of the way the Jews paid the Germans very little money… Idolotry is one of the 10 Commandments…. Perhaps God was punishing the jews because the were making money their idol instead of worshiping God…

[Galmin]

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You know I have heard more than one German say… The jews were taking over all the businesses and making the Germans work for a “slave wage” while the Jews were getting filthy rich… They say Hitler could have never brainwashed a nation if they did not already have bad feelings for the Jews because of the way the Jews paid the Germans very little money… Idolotry is one of the 10 Commandments…. Perhaps God was punishing the jews because the were making money their idol instead of worshiping God…

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Nice NSDAP rethoric there, Rev.

[Rev9Volts]

I am not saying I agree with it. But I have heard it. It is more a theological question. They and Jerry Fallwell say "God never changes... He punished those evil and rewards the good." Afterall that is the Old Testament summerized in a sentance...





What is NSDAP?

[MIKE BURN]

As a German I will not forget and I do have an obligation to make sure that what happened in Auschwitz and other concentration camps will be never forgotten.

[Rev9Volts]

Why? As you said before to those who called you a Nazi erroniously... you had nothing to do with it?

[MIKE BURN]

As a matter of fact, at least 90% of the German population did know nothing about concentration camps like Auschwitz.



Too many looked away, too many didn't care (foreign countries as well).



This should not happen again.

[Rev9Volts]

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As a matter of fact, at least 90% of the German population did know nothing about concentration camps like Auschwitz.



Too many looked away, too many didn't care (foreign countries as well).



This should not happen again.

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That is right Mike... few people in the world knew what was going on. well if you were German and did know and complained about it you would get tossed in also and you are right too many did not care just like too many such as Bill Clinton did not care about 400,000 plus get slaughtered in Rowanda in just a few months...



You are right it should not happen to any group of people... but unfortunantly it will and is in say China with Tibet or other areas... or the middle east killing Christians...



My point was just everyone else goes on and says "the past is the past life goes on..." except the jews...



but then again the Jews controll Hollywood and the press and TV networks...



Did you know Jews own the New York Times and they knew about the concentration camps and never mentioned it?





As far as Dick Cheeny wearing warm clothes... so what... most of the time at the inauguration they were under a roof... those newspapers are biased against Cheeny... just is not flying about his clothes...

[Galmin]

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Vice President Dick Cheney raised eyebrows on Friday for wearing an olive-drab parka, hiking boots and knit ski cap to represent the United States at a solemn ceremony remembering the liberation of Auschwitz.

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Dick asked someone "were are we going today?"; getting the answer "that concentrationcamp" might have led Dick to believe that they were going to a place where no press had their cameras propped up. Gitmo.

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My point was just everyone else goes on and says "the past is the past life goes on..." except the jews...

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Nowhere before in the history of mankind was the killing of human beings thus industrialized. Nowhere before was the mechanization of death so vast, so well organized and so utterly perfected.



It is important that no-one of us living on this planet forget. It is important that we do not let it happen again!





NSDAP means National-Socialist-German-Workers-Party

[Rev9Volts]

You may be right on your 3rd to last sentance, but still other groups have had more fatalities and in the end total body count is what counts...

[Rev9Volts]

oh and galmin i think stalin was pretty organised at killing innocent people... he was just on the winning side so he got to rewrite history... i saw and i can not find it a poll of 3000 germans over 62% are tired of the jews never ending cranking about "never forget"...

[Galmin]

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i saw and i can not find it a poll of 3000 germans over 62% are tired of the jews never ending cranking about "never forget"...

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You probably saw the poll regarding Germans tired of having the inherited guilt as a perpetual burden. The same people who voted that they are tired about the 'inherited guilt' are probably agreeing that we should all never forget! We shouldn't.



There is a small group of people (like the nice people from NPD) who think we should forget and even some who claim it never happened. This party has most of its followers in old East Germany. That's why my half-joke about re-building the wall. It's been 15 years since they came out of a dictatorship and still they haven't learned a damned thing.





It's two different pair of shoes.

Edited by: Galmin  at: 2/1/05 17:23

[Rev9Volts]

You never answered my question Mike... Many times before you said you and your family never had anything to do with killing Jews... Why do you let them make you feel so guilty?



Mayhaps... no never forget just quit mashing it in our face... You know what the Yankee General Sherman did to American ndians after the Civil War? He had his troups slaughtered the wild buffalo so the Indians not only starved, but because they wore Buffalo skins fur they also froze... Well in the USA we never forget, but we do not make world leaders fly to USA to put on a memorial show for dead Indians... That is my point... Most Americans I know like jews depending on the person, meaning being jewish does not change things, but they get tired of holocaust this and holocaust that... Speilberg promoting Jews, but if a white person did a movie on promoting whites they would be called a racist and everyone knoews the Jews are the worst racists anywhere. They are so pretentious because they declared themselves as "God's chosen people"... Well God chose them to send a Savior Jesus through, but after Jesus God's chosen people are anyone who follow Jesus and so the Jews no longer are God's chosen people and so according to the Bible they are all going to hell....

[Galmin]

well, Rev, you were doing soo good until you tried to interpret the Bible!

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You know what the Yankee General Sherman did to American Indians after the Civil War? He had his troups slaughtered the wild buffalo so the Indians not only starved, but because they wore Buffalo skins fur they also froze... Well in the USA we never forget, but we do not make world leaders fly to USA to put on a memorial show for dead Indians...

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You say "in the USA we never forget" but actually you do. Without any kind of reminder (other than the glorification of the cowboy, the west and the cavallery in mostly crappy flicks [yeah I know, 'indianmurders' is a returning theme in the western genre: Little Big Man, Soldier Blue, Hidalgo, etc. Though the amount of western movies not handling this subject is overwhelming still to this day. Now, if you OTOH look at a movie about Germany during Hitler you are guaranteed to get reminded about the holocaust]. ), like inviting word leaders to a 'memorial show' you are bound to forget. You are bound to repeat mistakes made.