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A SECRET blueprint for US global domination reveals that President Bush and his cabinet were planning a premeditated attack on Iraq to secure 'regime change' even before he took power in January 2001.

The blueprint, uncovered by the Sunday Herald, for the creation of a 'global Pax Americana' was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice- president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), George W Bush's younger brother Jeb and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences: Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century, was written in September 2000 by the neo-conservative think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC).



The plan shows Bush's cabinet intended to take military control of the Gulf region whether or not Saddam Hussein was in power. It says: 'The United States has for decades sought to play a more permanent role in Gulf regional security. While the unresolved conflict with Iraq provides the immediate justification, the need for a substantial American force presence in the Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein.'



The PNAC document supports a 'blueprint for maintaining global US pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests'.



This 'American grand strategy' must be advanced for 'as far into the future as possible', the report says. It also calls for the US to 'fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theatre wars' as a 'core mission'.



The report describes American armed forces abroad as 'the cavalry on the new American frontier'. The PNAC blueprint supports an earlier document written by Wolfowitz and Libby that said the US must 'discourage advanced industrial nations from challenging our leadership or even aspiring to a larger regional or global role'.



The PNAC report also:



l refers to key allies such as the UK as 'the most effective and efficient means of exercising American global leadership';



l describes peace-keeping missions as 'demanding American political leadership rather than that of the United Nations';



l reveals worries in the administration that Europe could rival the USA;



l says 'even should Saddam pass from the scene' bases in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will remain permanently -- despite domestic opposition in the Gulf regimes to the stationing of US troops -- as 'Iran may well prove as large a threat to US interests as Iraq has';



l spotlights China for 'regime change' saying 'it is time to increase the presence of American forces in southeast Asia'. This, it says, may lead to 'American and allied power providing the spur to the process of democratisation in China';



l calls for the creation of 'US Space Forces', to dominate space, and the total control of cyberspace to prevent 'enemies' using the internet against the US;



l hints that, despite threatening war against Iraq for developing weapons of mass destruction, the US may consider developing biological weapons -- which the nation has banned -- in decades to come. It says: 'New methods of attack -- electronic, 'non-lethal', biological -- will be more widely available ... combat likely will take place in new dimensions, in space, cyberspace, and perhaps the world of microbes ... advanced forms of biological warfare that can 'target' specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool';



l and pinpoints North Korea, Libya, Syria and Iran as dangerous regimes and says their existence justifies the creation of a 'world-wide command-and-control system'.



Tam Dalyell, the Labour MP, father of the House of Commons and one of the leading rebel voices against war with Iraq, said: 'This is garbage from right-wing think-tanks stuffed with chicken-hawks -- men who have never seen the horror of war but are in love with the idea of war. Men like Cheney, who were draft-dodgers in the Vietnam war.



'This is a blueprint for US world domination -- a new world order of their making. These are the thought processes of fantasist Americans who want to control the world. I am appalled that a British Labour Prime Minister should have got into bed with a crew which has this moral standing.'

[HKRockChick]

www.newamericancentury.org/



I don't think it would go down well if China or Europe came out it with a similar strategy either. This is scary stuff. Many people in the US refuse to acknowledge its existence. Embarassment?

[DreamTone7]

There are nut-jobs everywhere you go. I don't know about the American public in general, but I've known about these clowns for a long time (PNAC). But actually trying to convince people that the nuts have the power to do any of this requires a certain amount of paranoia...on the part of both parties.

[HKRockChick]

so glad we are on the same page finally, and that you think the following people are nut jobs...



Elliott Abrams

Gary Bauer

William J. Bennett

Jeb Bush

Dick Cheney

Eliot A. Cohen

Midge Decter

Paula Dobriansky

Steve Forbes

Aaron Friedberg

Francis Fukuyama

Frank Gaffney

Fred C. Ikle

Donald Kagan

Zalmay Khalilzad

I. Lewis Libby

Norman Podhoretz

Dan Quayle

Peter W. Rodman

Stephen P. Rosen

Henry S. Rowen

Donald Rumsfeld

Vin Weber

George Weigel

Paul Wolfowitz



see bottom of this page...



www.newamericancentury.or...ciples.htm



Unfortunately they do have the power to do and HAVE done lots to destabilise the world according to their nutball ideologies. But if you feel they're nuts why not vote them out? Then they WON'T have the power!



This is so cool! I'm glad we think the same on this issue DT.

[DreamTone7]

I don't completely agree. I don't think they have enough power to make all their plans happen, and I don't even know if what they HAVE done is according to their own agenda, or somebody elses. Have you heard of the Tri-Lateral Commision?

[DreamTone7]

It would also be good to remember that membership to an organization does not necessarily constitute active participation. There are many reasons to become a member...many of them political. Many Japanese Americans were held on such an account during WWII who were later found to be innocent of any involvement or wrongdoing. But, yeah, some of these guys are "out-to-lunch".

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Oh, for chrissake, these people and people like them have been running your country since Woodrow Wilson and his 'Wilsonian Idealism'. Much of the PFTNAC literature is based on Wilson's speeches. Another 'nut-job', perchance?



The 'bad apple' thesis is tired and stupid. Your leaders realize the need to dominate the world if your current consumerist way of life is to continue. You produce 6% of the world's oil and use 28%. They might be 'nut-jobs', but they can count.



There is a desperate need for American citizens to wake up and realize what their leaders have been doing over the decades.

[HKRockChick]

the mission statement is signed by these guys, among which are the top guys in the administration.



Jeb Bush - gov of florida

Dick Cheney - VP of USA

Donald Rumsfeld - defense secretary

Paul Wolfowitz - second in charge to the defense sec.



and the rest? big wigs - movers and shakers.



I reckon bush is not on cause he's too stupid to read it.



Want to deny it all some more DT?

[DreamTone7]

First, you'd have to show me what I denied.

[DreamTone7]

But seriously, it would take a lot more than the likes of those poeple to make policy and changes that could bring about this big "plan". Just like it takes more than the members of the NRA to make changes in gun control law. What you're spouting is another half truth, a-la the media, with nothing other than a membership roster to support your point of view. Pretty shaky evidence, all by itself.

[HKRockChick]

you denied..

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I don't think they have enough power to make all their plans happen, and I don't even know if what they HAVE done is according to their own agenda, or somebody elses.

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how much more power do you want than the VP, and Sec and undersec of defense? the pressy is an idiot, so he doesnt count.



If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck and eats like a duck, i'd say it probably is a duck...



anyway, no more arguments from me, moving on, moving on.