Sharon is insane.....

[MIKE BURN]

Anybody saw the new wall which separates Israel from Palestine???









....how bad that Sharon lost his senior-advisor recently...









This is really insane.............

[Rev9Volts]

you qare being polite mike!

[LarreeMP3]

As soon as those retarded palestinian terrorists pledge to stop blowing their subhuman asses off in the midst of civilized human beings, there will be no need for walls. I don't dig the wall, but I dig the wall a whole lot more than suicide bombers. End the f*cking terror now.

[MIKE BURN]

Rev9Volts





Larree..... I agree... the terror has to stop.



From both sides.



It's sad to see this ongoing senseless killing.



But how can Sharon repeat something we already know from East- and West-Germany?????



I mean that's really foolish, to build a 8 meters high wall out of concrete, covering the frontier all over.....



Sharon should think..... like it was with Honecker.... people brought down the wall from the side it was built from..........

Edited by: MIKE BURN  at: 12/20/03 3:13 am

[LarreeMP3]

And as soon as the palestinians agree to STOP the terror there will be peace between Israel and Palestine. Not one day before.

Edited by: LarreeMP3 at: 12/20/03 4:10 pm

[LarreeMP3]

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Sharon should think..... like it was with Honecker.... people brought down the wall from the side it was built from..........

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My main problem with this quote is this:



This is a different kind of wall that is (unfortunately) necessary for security. Like I said. The Palestinians need to commit to ending the terror and creating peace. Otherwise, this wall is a necessity.

[LarreeMP3]

Hey. If I knew that the people of Beverly Hills wanted to destroy Los Angeles and murder all of her inhabitants, I would build a wall between L.A. and B.H.

[MIKE BURN]

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Israelis killed boy, 5



Sunday, December 21, 2003 Posted: 11:29 AM EST (1629 GMT)



JERUSALEM (CNN) -- Israeli soldiers shot and killed a 5-year-old boy in the Balata refugee camp in the West Bank on Sunday morning, the Palestine Red Crescent Society said.

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[MIKE BURN]

There is hope for Israel........ and foremost for the Palestinians.



Like I said..... the wall usually is taken down from the side it was built from:



(sorry, so far the news are not published in english)

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Israelische Elitesoldaten verweigern Einsatz



Zum zweiten Mal innerhalb von drei Monaten haben israelische Soldaten den Einsatz im palästinensischen Autonomiegebiet verweigert. 13 israelische Eiltesoldaten protestierten in einem offenen Brief an Regierungschef Ariel Scharon gegen die "Unterdrückung in den Palästinsergebieten und die Verweigerung der Menschenrechte für Millionen von Palästinensern".



Die Soldaten und Offiziere der Spezialeinheit des Generalstabes hätten ihre Einsatzverweigerung mit der Sorge um die Zukunft Israels als demokratischer, zionistischer und jüdischer Staat begründet, hieß es. "Wir können nicht mehr beiseite stehen. Heute sagen wir: Wir werden nicht helfen, Millionen Palästinensern ihre Menschenrechte vorzuenthalten. Wir werden nicht Schutzwall für die Siedlungskampagne sein", so das Schreiben. Und: "Wir werden unsere Moral nicht durch Aufgaben einer Besatzungsarmee verunstalten lassen. Diese Grenze wird nicht mehr überschritten."



Vize-Minister droht mit Militärprozess

Den Verweigerern droht nun ein Militärprozess. "Diesen Soldaten gehört die Uniform abgenommen", sagte Vize-Verteidigungsminister Seev Boom. Sie müssten wegen "Ungehorsam und Rebellion" verurteilt werden, unabhängig davon, in welcher Einheit sie dienten. Heereschef Mosche Jaalon drohte ihnen die Entlassung an, sollten sie ihre kritischen Äußerungen nicht zurückziehen.



In einem Reaktionsschreiben an andere Reservisten der Spezialeinheit warnte die Regierung davor, sich dem Protest der Soldaten anzuschließen. Die Erklärung der Verweigerer wurde als populistisch und schockierend bezeichnet. Vor drei Monaten hatten sich Piloten der israelischen Luftwaffe geweigert, Ziele in den Palästinensergebieten anzugreifen.



Die in Israel als Helden gefeierten Soldaten gehören der Einheit Sajeret Matcal an, die früher vom späteren Ministerpräsidenten der Arbeitspartei, Ehud Barak, kommandiert wurde und 1976 an der spektakulären Geiselbefreiung von Flugzeugpassagieren auf dem ugandischen Flughafen Entebbe beteiligt war.

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[MIKE BURN]

It's now available in english (BBC):

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Israelis condemn army refuseniks



Last Updated: Monday, 22 December, 2003, 10:00 GMT



Senior Israeli officials have sharply criticised a group of army commandos who have refused missions in the Palestinian territories.

Thirteen reservists from the elite Sayeret Matkal unit wrote to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon saying they would not be part of a "rule of oppression".



Deputy Defence Minister Zeev Boim told public radio the group should "face judgement", AFP news agency reported.



Three months ago, 25 pilots refused to take part in Israeli bombing raids.



"These soldiers should be stripped of their uniform and face judgement for their disobedience and rebellion, regardless of the unit in which they serve, whether they be pilots, cooks or mechanics," Mr Boim told public radio.



In their letter, the soldiers said they would no longer participate in the defence of Jewish settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.



"We will no longer corrupt the stamp of humanity in us through carrying out the missions of an occupation army ... In the past, we fought for a justified cause [but today] we have reached the boundary of oppressing another people," the letter said.



Special weight



The refuseniks also came under fire from opposition Labour Party MP Danny Yatom, a former head of the Mossad overseas intelligence agency and deputy commander of the Sayeret Matkal, who branded their protest as "illegal".



Mr Yatom said the Sharon government's policies in the territories were exacerbating friction with the Palestinians and the armed forces but said that did not justify a refusal to serve, AFP reported.



In September, a group of 27 pilots signed a letter refusing to carry out targeted killings or other operations in the West Bank and Gaza because they considered them "immoral and illegal".



Several hundred reserve soldiers have been sent to prison for refusing to serve in the West Bank and Gaza, but the statements from pilots and commandos carry special weight because of their elite status.

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[LarreeMP3]

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"These soldiers should be stripped of their uniform and face judgement for their disobedience and rebellion, regardless of the unit in which they serve, whether they be pilots, cooks or mechanics," Mr Boim told public radio.

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I agree with that, 100%.

[AQUARIAN AGE]

Oh, well Larree and how about that ?

[LarreeMP3]

I think that's BS!



And since Israel is a democracy, the people can change that!



I would surely vote against that!



Democracy RULES!



G-d Bless Israel and the USA!



Freedom and democracy is the ONLY way!

[Rev9Volts]

larrie don't you mean god bless the zionists and the neo-conservatives, the chicken hawks who got out of going to viet nam, but send kids now to die??