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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 2:57 pm    Post subject: Saudi women denied vote, candidacy Reply with quote

Filed under "double standards of the current U.S. administration, Afghanistan/Iraq "freed" and bombed, good friend "Saudia" does not like to be "freed".... or what? :shit



Well, what we know is that the 9/11 pilots were from Saudi-Arabia...



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Saudi women denied vote, candidacy



(CNN) Monday, October 11, 2004 Posted: 9:13 PM EDT (0113 GMT)



RIYADH, Saudi Arabia (AP) -- Women may neither vote nor run in Saudi Arabia's first nationwide elections, the government has announced, dashing hopes of progressive Saudis and easing fears among conservatives that the kingdom is moving too fast on reforms.



An electoral official cited administrative and logistical reasons Monday for the decision to ban women from the municipal elections, scheduled to be held in three stages from February 10 to April 21.



The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said there are not enough women to run women's-only registration centers and polling stations, and that only a fraction of the country's women have the photo identity cards that would have been needed to vote.



Many women in Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, have balked at getting the ID cards -- introduced three years ago -- because the photographs would show their faces unveiled.



Saudi women have limited freedoms. Without written permission from a male guardian, they may not travel, get an education or work. Regardless of permissions, they are not allowed to drive, mix with men in public or leave home without covering themselves with black cloaks, called abayas.



The religious establishment had been lobbying against women's participation in the elections, diplomats said.



The decision was first announced by Interior Minister Prince Nayef in an interview published Monday. In his comment to a Kuwaiti newspaper, Nayef said only: "I don't think that women's participation is possible."







His remark was the first by a named top official on the issue. It settled a question that had been occupying Saudis since the government set the date for the elections in August. When the election law was published, it did not explicitly bar women from voting, which encouraged three women to declare themselves candidates.

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DreamTone7



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

It seems that there are some who believe (Mike) that they have the right to push their ways onto others...interesting. Now that IS a double standard.



Saudi Arabia will undoubtedly "modernize" over time with the way women are included into the male dominant society as found there today. But this issue, in my opinion, is one of the pivotal issues that has given rise to fundamental terrorist groups that rail against the "ways of the west". Stop pressuring them to include women in the way the west has, and you will see a drastic change (for the better) in terrorist acitivity and support for it within the Muslim world.



So, equal rights for women in Muslim countries at the expense of terrorism and the associated death. What do you say, ladies? Is it right to push our ways onto them? Is it worth the cost in innocent lives? Your call.

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Seismic Anamoly



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:37 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Give it up, DT.



It's our fault.



It's all our fault.



Everything is our fault.



You should know that by now.



And a Pig just flew by the window.



That's our fault, too.



And Lead just turned to Gold.



We're to blame.



Shame on us.



Bad Americans.



Bad.



Right.



Yeah.













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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:41 am    Post subject: straw man Reply with quote

"Everything is our fault."



Not true. You're not to blame for everything. Nobody is saying that, and you're setting up your own straw man to pull down.



However, your foreign policy IS to blame for over 140 wars and skirmishes around the globe since 1946, which resulted in millions of deaths.



As a nation, you must accept collective responsibility for this, and any American who votes for this sort of policy and does not actively resist it must accept personal responsibility for it.

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DreamTone7



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 3:02 pm    Post subject: Re: straw man Reply with quote

You're right Seismo...there are certainly those who see what they want to...and nothing else.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: idiot Reply with quote

"You're right Seismo...there are certainly those who see what they want to...and nothing else."



- Dumbtones



You don't even see what you want. You see what you're told to see by your religion and your corporate-Christian-Zionist-controlled government. You are the pathetic victim of the world's most expensive and powerful indoctrination machine. Democracy cannot possibly work with machine in operation.



I'll be going soon for another few weeks.



Then I'll come back to insult you again.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: idiot Reply with quote

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I'll be going soon for another few weeks.



Then I'll come back to insult you again.




:aua :popcorn :party

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