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MIKE BURN Generally Crazy Guy
Joined: 08 Nov 2001 Posts: 4825 Location: Frankfurt / Europe
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: Spain issues warrant for 3 U.S. soldiers |
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Quote: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/19/spain.us.soldiers/index.html
By CNN Madrid Bureau Chief Al Goodman
Wednesday, October 19, 2005 Posted: 1418 GMT (2218 HKT)
MADRID, Spain (CNN) -- A Spanish judge has issued an international arrest warrant for three U.S. soldiers for alleged participation in the death of Spanish TV cameraman Jose Couso in Baghdad as U.S. forces advanced to take control of the city in April 2003.
National Court investigating magistrate Santiago Pedraz issued the warrant Wednesday for the arrests of the soldiers and will seek their extradition to Spain, a National Court spokeswoman told CNN.
They are wanted for "murder" and "a crime against the international community," according to the warrant, a copy of which was viewed by CNN partner network CNN+.
Couso, who worked for Spain's Telecinco network, died at the Hotel Palestine on April 8, 2003, where he was on duty as a TV cameraman to shoot images of war-torn Baghdad.
The arrest warrant named the three soldiers as Sgt. Thomas Gibson, commander of the tank that allegedly fired a projectile at the hotel where Couso was filming; Capt. Philip Wolford, Gibson's superior, and Lt. Colonel Philip D. Camp, the captain's superior, CNN+ reported.
The arrest warrant said they were assigned to the U.S. Army's Third Infantry Division.
The arrest warrant says the U.S. provided "no judicial cooperation" in trying to resolve the death of the cameraman. The judge previously had sought to question the three soldiers but received no response from U.S. authorities.
Looks like Spain has finally enough.
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DreamTone7
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 11:29 pm Post subject: Re: Spain issues warrant for 3 U.S. soldiers |
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DT, what about the contractors who were ambushed, killed, burned and strung up? They were just casualties of war? Tough break? Wrong place, wrong time? The people who did it weren't doing anything inappropriate, they were just fighting a war? Is it a two-way street?
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: re |
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War is war...it's what makes it something to be avoided when possible. Perhaps we need to post a sign on every war that comes along "Enter at your own risk"? I don't think it would change anything, though.
Death is always a bad thing...in war or out of it. But if one expects to wander into a battle-field, be it in a wheat-field or a town, and expect everybody to stop firing so they can take their pictures, broadcast to CNN, or whatever, methinks they are the ones who are not being realistic and have made a mistake. Again, it's taking responsibility for your own actions. Unfortunately, they paid the ultimate price this time for their mistake. Nobody forced them to be a war-time camera-man.
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:08 am Post subject: Re: re |
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You avoided the question.
I'm guessing in a round about way you're saying that the contractors and their families should've expected that potential outcome?
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject: re |
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While tragic, yes, they should have expected the possibility. In war, all bets are off when it comes to what we can expect. A quick glance at history confirms this. What is supposed to make us think that anything has changed?
I'm not saying that it should have happened...but that it's something that any reasonable person should have expected the possibility of happening. When people make mistakes, are we supposed to collectively pay for them somehow? How are we supposed to do this? It reminds me of the lady who sued McDonalds when SHE spilled hot coffee in her lap.
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Rev9Volts
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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you are wrong mike spain is just trying more to appease terrorist by poking usa in the eye. he went in a battle zone he knew he could get killed. feck him in his grave and the sissy politicians in spain.
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: Re: re |
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tum tum tum tum tum tum tee
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Rev9Volts
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Rev9Volts
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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and the camera dude is not the same ase the contractors who were strung up.
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Rev9Volts
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Rev, I brought up the contractors to see if there was a level of hypocrisy, that's all. If a cameraman can be killed in a war zone and it's just all part of war, then three private military guys who get killed, burned and strung up is just part of war.
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