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Canada: No refuge for U.S. soldier

 
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MIKE BURN
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:40 pm    Post subject: Canada: No refuge for U.S. soldier Reply with quote

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Thursday, March 24, 2005 Posted: 2:55 PM EST (1955 GMT)



TORONTO (AP) -- The Canadian government has denied refugee status to former U.S. Army paratrooper Jeremy Hinzman, a major blow to a handful of U.S. military deserters who have fled to Canada rather than fight in a war they claim commits atrocities against civilians.



Thursday's decision, which was formally announced on a government Web site, could affect at least eight -- and possibly dozens more -- American soldiers seeking refuge in Canada, yet help improve strained relations between Washington and Ottawa.



Canada opposed the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. The Pentagon has urged the deserters to return to the United States and take up their concerns at their respective military bases.



The ruling, written by Immigration and Refugee Board member Brian Goodman, said Hinzman had not made a convincing argument that he would face persecution or cruel and unusual punishment if sent back to the United States.



Goodman said that while Hinzman may face some employment and social discrimination, "The treatment does not amount to a violation of a fundamental human right, and the harm is not serious."



Hinzman's attorney, Jeffry House, said his client would appeal the ruling and still believed that he would be granted refugee status in Canada.



"He is disappointed," House told CBC TV. "We don't believe that people should be imprisoned for doing what they believe is illegal."



Hinzman, 26, fled from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, in January 2004, weeks before his 82nd Airborne Division was due to be deployed to Iraq. He had served three years in the Army, but had applied for conscientious objector status before his unit was sent to Afghanistan in 2002.



Hinzman lives with his wife and toddler son in Toronto, where Quakers and the War Resisters coalition of anti-war groups have taken on his cause and provided some shelter. Coalition supporters intend to demonstrate later Thursday in front of the U.S. Consulate in Toronto.



Hinzman argued before the Immigration and Refugee Board last December that he would have been taking part in war crimes if he had been deployed with his unit. He claimed the war in Iraq was illegal and he would be persecuted if forced to return to the United States.



Hinzman could face charges of desertion if sent home and would face up to five years in prison. He and seven other U.S. military deserters are being represented by House, a Wisconsin native who came to Canada in 1970 as a draft dodger during the Vietnam War.



House believes there are as many as 100 other American war resisters hiding in Canada, waiting to see how Hinzman's case is played out before coming forward. He said the 30,000 to 50,000 Americans who fled to Canada during Vietnam and were allowed to settle here, but that Hinzman would have become the first American soldier to be granted political asylum in Canada.



During the Vietnam era, young American men could be drafted into military service, but now enlistment in U.S. military is voluntary. The military attracts many young recruits with job skills training and programs that help pay for university.



Pvt. 1st Class Joshua Key, 26, of Oklahoma City is the latest war resister to flee to Toronto, arriving two weeks ago with his wife and four children. He told the Toronto Star that he served in Iraq with the 43rd Combat Engineering Company, which was deployed in April 2003.



Key said he served eight months in Iraq before he left the military when he was on leave back at the 43rd's base in Fort Carson, Colorado in December 2003.



"I was in combat the entire time I was there," said Key. "I left for Iraq with a purpose, thinking this was another Hitler deal. But there were no weapons of mass destruction. They had no military whatsoever. And I started to wonder."

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:55 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

LOL...like one guy knows it all just because he was a common soldier over there. That's like saying if I was a common foot-soldier in WWII, that should mean that I knew all about the atomic bomb the US was building. Rediculous. (Leave it to Mike to make something out of nothing.)



But I agree with Canada's actions...they are RESPONSIBLE actions.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

yea send him hack we want to hang him by his feet for a few hours to start with. besides deserters can be executed... i say give him the firing squad.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

Rev, you sometimes don't read everything do you? If he was under threat of death the Canadian government would give him protection. Then more soldiers would run to Canada.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

i know and it suits me fine if canada takes them still i say shoot the deserter... besides i figured it would reinforce mike's idea i am a bloodthirsty barbarian. :rollin :we

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