any one use ouigi boards?

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

no need to i have a bible at home. i can check it.

as far as "witches, vampires, werewolves and various other religions were free to intergrate into them."

can you give me examples where wthose are happening? vampires and wearwolves are not a religion and have nothing to do with witches...

the problem with religion in the schools is it is the judeo/christian concept of religion. which religion is true... well no one will know until they are dead.

didn't the cananites own the land where the hebrews called "their promise" land?

i saw moses was a hitler because he killed a lot of innocent pagans just because and hitler killed a lot of jews just because neither wanted someone of a different race/faith to be in their land/country.

Why · Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 51

"no need to i have a bible at home. i can check it."

Apparently I do need to because you haven't been checking it lately.

Where in the Bible did you see canaanites as innocent pagans? The canaanites worshipped Baal. And in the worship of Baal children sacrafices were done. Are you sure your reading the Bible. Children sacrafices to a gold or rock idol and your calling moses hitler and those pagans innocent?

Do you know your actions? Who are you to tell God how to do His job? I assume your better than Him? How are you innocent as a lamb and you are still able to put God on trial as something bad, if He is all pure and you are not.

Whether or whether not you really read the same Bible, I'm still going to post those parts of Exodus and other books from the Bible here for others so that they can see it.

Jeremiah 19

5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to burn their sons with fire for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:

Exodus 32

21 And Moses said unto Aaron, What did this people unto thee, that thou hast brought so great a sin upon them? 22 And Aaron said, Let not the anger of my lord wax hot: thou knowest the people, that they are set on mischief. 23 For they said unto me, Make us gods, which shall go before us: for as for this Moses, the man that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we wot not what is become of him. 24 And I said unto them, Whosoever hath any gold, let them break it off. So they gave it me: then I cast it into the fire, and there came out this calf. 25 And when Moses saw that the people were naked; (for Aaron had made them naked unto their shame among their enemies) 26 Then Moses stood in the gate of the camp, and said, Who is on the LORD'S side? let him come unto me. And all the sons of Levi gathered themselves together unto him. 27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. 28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men. 29 For Moses had said, Consecrate yourselves to day to the LORD, even every man upon his son, and upon his brother; that he may bestow upon you a blessing this day.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

so the cananites worshipped bael. did thaqt give moses and company the right to slaughter them all? i suppose because the hebrews slaughtered cananites that sets a historical presidence that allows isreal to slaughter the palistinians. (no laree it is not a dig at you "this time")

well the lsrealites surely killed a bunch of innocent animals over the years and who is to say a once a year people sacrifice did not make the crops grow better. rituals have power whether you believe it or not. a farmer going to a temple prostitue performing a "sex magic" ritual might help his plants grow. he did not go for fun, but as part of his religion.

besides how do you know god is all pure and i am not, because you read a book that sez he is. if you read the koran as much as you read the bible i am willing to bet your views on religion would change.

besides moses was not born a hebrew so how do you not know he did not sacrifice people in his younger days. how do you not know moses was like joseph smith who started mormanism... mormans know it is the true religion to them yer you say yours is the true one. muslums say theirs is and the american indians say theirs is. no one has proof any or all are true.

verse 27 seems to say moses slaid more than just ring leaders, but back to my point of moses being a dictator like hitler, pol pot satlin etc... why (no pun intended) because he would not allow freedom of religion. he could have banished them no moses slaughtered them performing a "reign of terror" which let all others know if they did not "tow the party line" THEY WOULD BE KILLED JUST AS THERE WERE MANY GERMANS, RUSSIONS AND ITALIANS IN WW2 WHO HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO "TOE THE PARTY LINE" oops dam caPs kEy... or be killed as moses did.

Why · Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 51

Like I said before Caananites worshipped Baal. I posted that Baal was to get Children sacrificed to that demon Baal or whatever you want to call him.

So the Caananites sacrificed children. Would you like to see your son thrown in a fire alive? No.

This is getting silly to, now your holding the Hebrews on account of sacrificing animals to make them look guilty as possible.

Rev9 animals are not worth Humans. I would sacrifice an animal to Yahweh anyday over burning a child to Baal.

Like I said at the beggining it is up to God to decide who to judge. He knows what He is doing. We don't. Case in point all history and its incidents have been dont by humans out for their own gain not by the Lord. We don't put Him on trial, He puts us on trail...He has that right.

God does care about even though you may not recognize it. Look at how you stopped using the ouiji board. Continous use of that would have surely harmed you and harmed the people who you tell its safe to use. That's why God says keep away from it because it is harmful. Whether you think the book Lev. is real or not it was before you and will be here after you.

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besides moses was not born a hebrew so how do you not know he did not sacrifice people in his younger days. how do you not know moses was like joseph smith who started mormanism... mormans know it is the true religion to them yer you say yours is the true one. muslums say theirs is and the american indians say theirs is. no one has proof any or all are true.

Moses was born a hewbrew ok. It was egyptain decree that all Hebrew babes should be killed. Innocent pagans huh? Read your facts again. God forgives those who do not know their actions. Take a look at that guy that was nailed to a cross for you. Forgive them for they know not what they do. Apparently you don't care.

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besides how do you know god is all pure and i am not, because you read a book that sez he is. if you read the koran as much as you read the bible i am willing to bet your views on religion would change.

YOUR NOT PURE, YOUR A HUMAN WHO TRIES TO JUDGE GOD. YOUR LAUGHABLE NOT PURE. that damn caps key was put up on purpose too. You never saved my life. You will never stick with me through bad and good. You never made all creation. You do not sit in Heaven. You are short in your sight. And you are a hypocrite. You do not judge God, case closed. God is not a politician, don't put him on trail.

If you are better than He is then why don't you go and end all the worlds conflicts yourself. I challenge you to do that.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

oops i was thinking of abraham who was the first hebrew said he was called by god.

nope tha caps key was a mistake and i was in a hurry.

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If you are better than He is then why don't you go and end all the worlds conflicts yourself. I challenge you to do that.

my point exactly if god is the one true god why does not he stop all that.

according to the bible time line adam and evelived what 5-8000 years ago? there is archiological artifacts older than that and those cultures hav e the same basic world beginning myth/story.

christianity is nothing more than a charicature of paganism

read about all the pagan holidays christianity stole them and judaism pretty much is the same.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

organised religion is nothing more that a way to control the masses just as moses did. he controlled the masses by executing the desenters and the rest of the people lived in the same fear jusrt as hitler mao tse yung, stalin etc.

and by the way we all know da rev is a :langel

Why · Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 51

Your heart is blinded and your mind is exalted. Let me say this from the Word of God you hate so much.

He who is exalted will be humbled and

He who is humbled will be exalted.

Your arrogance reminds me of that Nimrod story in the Bible. Where he thought he was the greater of the Lord. Out of all other heathen rulers in the Bible his was the most funny. Here you have a God who is beyond what we can fathom but a nutcase tries to challenge him. You carry on that tradition.

You a little angel? NO

Angels submit to God and are wise, you are neither.

Your more like a :fd

Rev9volts: wolf in sheeps clothing.

We are not pagans. We don't worship their gods. We worship the real one. As I said at the begginng of this argument out of all the empires who came and went ours is still here to this day.

But please if you are going to argue get back to the subject of the ouiji board.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

Your heart is blinded and your mind is exalted. Let me say this from the Word of God you hate so much.

He who is exalted will be humbled and

He who is humbled will be exalted.

well there are a lot of mormans and moslems who would say the same thing about me.

Your arrogance reminds me of that Nimrod story in the Bible. Where he thought he was the greater of the Lord. Out of all other heathen rulers in the Bible his was the most funny. Here you have a God who is beyond what we can fathom but a nutcase tries to challenge him. You carry on that tradition.

"evil like beauty is often in the eye of the beholder" No I am not challenging any god, just pointing out that no one will know true god until we are dead. you believe that your religion is the true one, but you do not know it is. not until you die and discover if on the other side is a "heaven and hell"

You a little angel? NO Yes

Angels submit to God and are wise, you are neither.

Your more like a

Rev9volts: wolf in sheeps clothing.

We are not pagans. We don't worship their gods. We worship the real one. As I said at the begginng of this argument out of all the empires who came and went ours is still here to this day.

my pointy is with all due respect it is you who come across as arragant saying you worship the true god. you have no more proof that your god is real than a moslem does or a morman is. just because it is in a book does not mean it is realy true. That is not quite true as there is judaism and islem and buddist and a bunch more. did you know the catholic church and protestans had an inquisition against pagans from about 1300-maybe 1700? Up to 9 million killed, don't forget the crusades... lots of arabs killed in the name of christ. if your god is such a wonderful god then why did he let his followers kill millions of people?

But please if you are going to argue get back to the subject of the ouiji board.

that is my point, just because a book says something does not mean it is true.

Edited by: Rev9Volts at: 4/7/04 6:26 pm

Why · Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 51

I don't really break down over an inquision against 1300 pagans when pagans have been murdering Jews and Christians for 1000s of years. Egypt, Rome, Europe...need I go on. Pagan romans who fed innocent people to lions and massacred them just because they wanted to bow to their God instead of Jupiter, Pagans who revel in burning kids alive and make them slaves for building their pyramids and statues. Pagans naturally deny the suffering that the Christians went through because they want everyone to believe that nothing happens to anyone but them.

You are much too vain to know or feel.

You have no idea of God's power. In 1000 years you could not even begin to fathom a toenail of what the Lord is about. Your mind is clouded with arrogance and you are way to exalted in your own meager power to begin to understand.

Put all the worlds greatest minds together and they could still not touch an atom of God's brilliance. Call me a slave if you want, but at least I am not a slave to my own vanity and not as vain in my own power. Put all your most merciful leaders in a pot together and they will appear as criminals in comparison to what Christ did 2000 years ago.

Unless you are ready to open your mind and give up your hatred and self-righteousness, you will never understand a hair or what it's all about.

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HKRockChick · No More Peas! Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Posts: 1513

does anyone truly believe one God made you and other Gods made other people who don't believe in your God and have their own Gods?

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

it was not 1300 it was

up to 9 million

starting in 1300. sadly enough in europe in england most were catholics and on mainland most were protestants. however if you turned in a pagan (witch) and they were executed you got all their posessions hense a lot of widows were turned in by the farmer next door. othere were midwives turned in by male doctors who were wiping out the competition.

you know good and well there were never many children "sacrificed" as if there were they would wipe out their own nation/tribe/etc.

romans who tossed christians to lions etc were not a real pagan they were doing it to them as a sport which they did crinminals. so that won't fly but good try.

yes da rev is a :langel

oh and the fruits of the spirit are love joy peace patience goodess kindness and understanding. i think that was from the epistle of james.

i duno i think you are the arragant one to tell me your religion is the only right one cause you read a book that was decided on in about 450 years after the birth of jeebus by a bunch of men who were catholic leaders. :toc

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

"You have no idea of God's power. In 1000 years you could not even begin to fathom a toenail of what the Lord is about. Your mind is clouded with arrogance and you are way to exalted in your own meager power to begin to understand."

well that is just your opinion and because it is your opinion does not mean your opinion is "truth"

well let me put it this way... been there and done that had lots of t-shirts. got tired of hypocracy and arragance by people like you.

organised religion is about money and power a way to control the masses...

and i read most of your links above about places where their is no freedom of religion. well it is if you follow the official religion...

some good christians.....

The Salem Witch Trials of 1692

In January of 1692, the daughter and niece of Reverend Samuel Parris of Salem Village became ill. When they failed to improve, the village doctor, William Griggs, was called in. His diagnosis of bewitchment put into motion the forces that would ultimately result in the death by hanging of nineteen men and women. In addition, one man was crushed to death; seventeen others died in prison, and the lives of many were irrevocably changed.

Dr. William Griggs examines Betty Parris and declares

her possessed by the Devil.

To understand the events of the Salem witch trials, it is necessary to examine the times in which accusations of witchcraft occurred. There were the ordinary stresses of 17th-century life in Massachusetts Bay Colony. A strong belief in the devil, factions among Salem Village fanatics and rivalry with nearby Salem Town, a recent small pox epidemic and the threat of attack by warring tribes created a fertile ground for fear and suspicion. Soon prisons were filled with more than 150 men and women from towns surrounding Salem. Their names had been "cried out" by tormented young girls as the cause of their pain. All would await trial for a crime punishable by death in 17th-century New England, the practice of witchcraft.

Trial of Rebecca Nurse

In June of 1692, the special Court of Oyer (to hear) and Terminer (to decide) sat in Salem to hear the cases of witchcraft. Presided over by Chief Justice William Stoughton, the court was made up of magistrates and jurors. The first to be tried was Bridget Bishop of Salem who was found guilty and was hanged on June 10. Thirteen women and five men from all stations of life followed her to the gallows on three successive hanging days before the court was disbanded by Governor William Phipps in October of that year. The Superior Court of Judicature, formed to replace the "witchcraft" court, did not allow spectral evidence. This belief in the power of the accused to use their invisible shapes or spectres to torture their victims had sealed the fates of those tried by the Court of Oyer and Terminer. The new court released those awaiting trial and pardoned those awaiting execution. In effect, the Salem witch trials were over.

As years passed, apologies were offered, and restitution was made to the victims' families. Historians and sociologists have examined this most complex episode in our history so that we may understand the issues of that time and apply our understanding to our own society. The parallels between the Salem witch trials and more modern examples of "witch hunting" like the McCarthy hearings of the 1950's, are remarkable.

Why · Joined: 06 Dec 2003 Posts: 51

Not only did I show you the persecution of my people by pagans and other world powers in the past and in the present, but you still show no sympathy or even think the slightest thought about their suffering. What a human you are. :hm

Who is being hypocritical and arrogant. It is the fault of the people in south Sudan that they are being killed because of their christianity, it is the hypocrisy of countless Christians in Rome, so all those women and children deserved to be fed to lions? What kind of brain do you think with?

"everyone knows rev9volts is a little angel"

I'm arrogant?

I showed you and gave you proof of what people like you do to christians in this world today and in the past

and I'm being hypocritical?

"that's your opinion"

Is it? No, it is not. It's your Vanity and your misunderstand to hate what you do not understand.

Was Jesus in it for money and power? All your precious pagans conquered land after land and killed off entire peoples in the name of empire and wealth and you got the nerve to tell me that my people are in for money and power?

What did you read in those links?

Its their fault to you? They are in it for the money? Take a minute before you post to think of what you are saying.

These are God's people living with the scorn of the world's powers. You have your Bible, then check it. Be glad all your goths and pagans who whine about mistreatment or their hair -n- nails, don't have to live like that. Save your tears for someone else.

I doubt you even read those links or pages. It don't matter to you one way or the other.

Arrogance? I'm just sick of people like you, who don't or are unwilling to understand us and still think you have the right to judge us. Well my opinion of course.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

nope i read many of them and these christians are persecuted by governments not pagans. you are wrong.

Rev9Volts · Joined: 10 Jul 2003 Posts: 1327

speaking of christians what about they way they treated all the indigionious people in north and south america.

no i never fed anyone to a lion nor sacrifised a virgin