Janet Jackson Superbowl halftime poll!

4teetoo · Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 195

i still love ya larree, even if you are a reactionary hypocritical puritanical hookers-on-your-stage-but-no-boobs-on-janet goofball!

:bday

DreamTone7 · Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2571

I happen to agree with Larree on this one. There is a proper time and place for everything...and the Super-Bowl was the wrong time and place for that kind of sexual/aggressive activity (a male ripping part of her clothes off). The point is not if you find it offensive or not....the point is that you should be able to choose for yourself and your children what they do and do not see. Putting this "show" on, during a time when it was well known that kids would be watching with their families, during an event that has traditionally been "clean", takes that choice away from you as a human being and as a parent. That is not right...whether you find it offensive or not.

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

Quote:
i still love ya larree, even if you are a reactionary hypocritical puritanical hookers-on-your-stage-but-no-boobs-on-janet goofball!

HUGE difference. I was performing my show with the porn girls chasing me with strapons onstage at an ADULTS ONLY venue, and Janet flashed her tit at all the kiddies watching a football game at home on TV with their mommies and daddies!

There is absolutely NOTHING hypocritical about my opinion!

It was not right to do that, and Janet and Justin are scum of the Earth to me.

Edited by: LarreeMP3 at: 2/3/04 7:10 pm

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

Quote:
The point is not if you find it offensive or not....the point is that you should be able to choose for yourself and your children what they do and do not see.

Exactly! I know this and I'm not even a parent!

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
if I was the commisioner of the NFL I would sue the pants off of Janet

But not during the halftime show!!! :bigeyes

I don't this is a case of anyone trying to expose an X-rated thing to kids, Larry. More like someone's bad judgment at work, even good people sometimes do the wrong thing. It was inappropiate and it seems everyone concerned has apologized.

The NFL people need to excersize better judgment too - Justin & Janet? bleech, bleech!! (with or w/o clothes). The Toby Keith/Willie Nelson set was nice and I thought Areosmith brought the house down, those fellas can still rock with the best of 'em! Their performance was a show stopper and it would have been a great point to end the halftime show.

When J&J came on, I yawned and went to my PC, so I missed the ill-advised breast bearing incident.

But I do feel let down, since we've come to expect so much better behavior from a Jackson....

:aua

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

But the NFL can't use the footage of the finale now!

It's business!

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
it's pretty sad that we view a woman's breast as something that is vile and corrupting.

everyone should get over it and applaud janet for not buying into the hypocritical 'puritan' views of our society

Well, 4teetoo, I don't have a politically correct bone in my body, but I think what was definitely wrong was the context:

He sez:"Before this song is through I'll have your clothes off" and then rips off her top. That, more than the bared boob question, is not the type of message that young boys watching a football game need to see & hear.

Quote:
if a woman is breast-feeding a child in a mall, do you call her a whore and rush your children to the parking lot, planning a scathing letter to the mall manager?

I think anyone of us here who would see a guy rip off a girl's blouse in a mall would very likely flatten him and then call the cops. It's a matter of propriety, place and context.

This was just an ill advised PR stunt, reeking more of something desperate for singers worried about their slide into irrelevancy. Not artistic, nor erotic, but instead rather pathetic.

Great source for jokes, though, lol!

Damien Project · Joined: 04 Jan 2003 Posts: 257

well we all know that Timberlakes succeess defies all logic..but..hey...they should have stripped all her clothes off......I could have explained to my kids that it was a wardrobe accident :gl

Mark

www.soundclick.com/damienproject

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
But the NFL can't use the footage of the finale now!

That tiny part will end up on the editing room floor, I expect, Larree - for official NFL DVD & tape sales. Of course anyone with Tivo recording the game will have the whole thing. But it was a multicam shoot and the producers have plenty of stuff to insert during the 1-2 seconds there, e.g. insert a cutaway shot of the crowd, but the music keeps going, then back to the fireworks finale; it keeps the continuinity.

Of course, any guy who would buy a DVD hoping for a 1 second peek at a part of Janet's rack....well - I just dunno....

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
I could have explained to my kids that it was a wardrobe accident

Hmmmm...I'm picturing hormonal teens across the country when they're caught in a compromising situation:

"Dad, it was the weirdest thing - we were watching TV with the lights turned out and then the wardrobe accident came out of the blue!!" :dunno

LarreeMP3 · Joined: 12 Apr 2002 Posts: 1935

Quote:
That tiny part will end up on the editing room floor, I expect, Larree - for official NFL DVD & tape sales. Of course anyone with Tivo recording the game will have the whole thing. But it was a multicam shoot and the producers have plenty of stuff to insert during the 1-2 seconds there, e.g. insert a cutaway shot of the crowd, but the music keeps going, then back to the fireworks finale; it keeps the continuinity.

Well, if I was editing I would a want a nice tight shot of the two of them for the finale. They ruined my picture with their stunt if I'm editing.

4teetoo · Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 195

i was just yankin your chain w/the hipocryte stuff.

bbchris · Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 6:28 am Post subject: Re: larree

Well everyone is berating Janet J. but surely Justin sets a bad example too? And I hope to God none of the members of TOL will do this to me - I'd throw them out the band! :insane

DreamTone7 · Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 2571

chris, no fears. I think you'd have to be wearing something (like Janet obviously was) that comes apart easily and quickly.

I wonder if this will effect the style of clothing women choose to wear? And in which direction?

RonOnGuitar · Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Posts: 1916

Quote:
Well everyone is berating Janet J. but surely Justin sets a bad example too?

You're 100% on spot, Chris. That was my criticism (above), ripping a girl's top off is not a positive image to put in young boy's heads!

If we were talking about a rape scene in an R-rated movie where it was essential to the plot, then the context would make sense to adults. But it's wrong in the context of "fun entertaiment at halftime".

The silly thing is it added nothing to the set, other than some bad PR for those involved. But many people believe that bad buzz is better no buzz at all. Toby Keith, Willie Nelson & Areosmith (especially)did a fantastic job of wowing the crowd, too bad their performances got lost in the J&J controversy.

There was much more good than bad on the whole entertainment-wise. The game itself started out sluggish, but got very competitive in the 2nd half. American football has a 1 hour game (that somehow lasts 3 hours, lol) divided into 4 quarter hours, with a break at halftime (after 2 quarters). If there's a tie at the end of the last quarter, it goes into "sudden death overtime", where the team who scores first wins. This game was pretty close, won by a field goal (3 points) in the last 9 seconds.

BTW, Chris, did you get the email with the attached prog?