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DreamTone7
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NRKofOver
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:41 am Post subject: Re: For Deb (and those who buy the DU myth) |
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Quote: some research suggests more conservative guidelines should be considered
My music for the disenchanted masses |
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:44 am Post subject: Re: For Deb (and those who buy the DU myth) |
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Scientific report??
"Prepared by
Sandia National Laboratories
Albuquerque, New Mexico 87185 and Livermore, California 94550
Sandia is a multiprogram laboratory operated by Sandia Corporation, a Lockheed Martin Company, for the United States Department of Energy’s National Nuclear Security Administration under Contract DE-AC04-94AL85000.
Got any reports NOT sponsored by the government for us to read?
You know those studies the drug companies and tobacco companies used to sponsor? How many of them were proven later to be fiction, or the results used selectively, or samples changed when they didnt fit?
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DreamTone7
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: hmmmm |
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This is a study commissioned by the govt... I'll believe a study done by an entirely independent agency.
As it happens, I KNOW an ex-US army personnel who is now in Manila. He told me that they were so warned about DU in the field that if the armoured trucks had even a scratch on them they were removed immediately, no one was allowed to touch them until they were repaired and given the all clear. Seems to me that the gov't doesnt believe their own studies to the public, because they are VERY careful with the handling of DU now...
Would YOU inhale the stuff?
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:56 am Post subject: re |
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The government recognizes the scare that leftist media put into the general populace, and is responding to it by being extra careful...in the same way they responded to the whole "saccarine scare" by puting warning lables on the packages containing it. It has nothing to do with the reality of the situation...it's a appeasement tactic for folks who just don't "get it".
I wouldn't inhale anything but fresh air if I didn't have to. But unless I was one of the few inside a vehicle hit by one of these shells (and lived to tell about it), there's no way I'd be inhaling enough for me to worry about.
HKRC - "This is a study commissioned by the govt... I'll believe a study done by an entirely independent agency."
I have my doubts that you would.
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:40 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Yeehaaaaaa!
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:18 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Is the Sandia report stating why the state of NY closed one of their factories/test sites down?
No?
They forgot to tell that they had to leave because the micro particle DU contamination was too high?
Did the Sandia report tell who is the contractor delivering DU material?
No?
Wow. Am I not surprised, or what?
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DreamTone7
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Come up with hard evidence to the contrary of what is found in the report, Galmin, and I'll listen. Nobody will do the report though...those smart enough to understand the physical, chemical and radioactive nature of what is invovled already know (as I did) that any tests they made would yield the same results. They'd rather go on railing (as you do) without any evidence. They DON'T WANT any evidence! Then they'd have to recant. The "left" don't stomach crow very well.
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: Re: re |
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Fact: the state of NY shut a Sandia site down because of too high micro particle DU contamination.
"But I thought it was harmless?"
Sandia is deeply involved since decades in the contracting of DU to the defense industry. They earn their living on it. To let them produce a report wether DU is dangerous is like letting Colt do a report comparing the M-16 to a H&K MG6, or GM do a cartest comparing the Pontiac G6 to a BMW M3.
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DreamTone7
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Galmin The King has spoken!
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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Did you read the Sandia report disclaimer?
Quote: NOTICE: This report was prepared as an account of work sponsored by an agency
of the United States Government. Neither the United States Government, nor any agency
thereof, nor any of their employees, nor any of their contractors, subcontractors, or their
employees, make any warranty, express or implied, or assume any legal liability or
responsibility for the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information,
apparatus, product, or process disclosed, or represent that its use would not infringe
privately owned rights.
I particularly liked the "the author (whoever that is) would like to thank Mr Collegue and Mrs Also-Hired-By-Sandia for their unselfish contribution to the cause"
Why not simply use Tungsten?
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HKRockChick No More Peas!
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bitwhys
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: re |
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it was a lack of hard evidence that fed sheep to cattle.
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