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goodisonpark
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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:05 am Post subject: How to describe G.W.Bush's actions to a child (long story) |
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>Q. Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
>
>A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction.
>
>Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.
>
>A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.
>
>Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
>
>A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.
>
>Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass
>destruction,
>did we?
>
>A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll find
>something,
>probably right before the 2004 election.
>
>Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
>
>A: To use them in a war, silly.
>
>Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use in a
>war, then
>why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to war with them?
>
>A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those weapons,
>so they chose
>to die by the thousands rather than defend themselves.
>
>Q: That doesn't make sense. Why would they choose to die if they had all
>those big
>weapons with which they could have fought back?
>
>A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.
>
>Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those weapons
>our
>government said they did.
>
>A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those weapons.
>We had
>another good reason to invade them anyway.
>
>Q: And what was that?
>
>A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was
>a cruel
>dictator, which is another good reason to invade another country.
>
>Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his
>country?
>
>A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.
>
>Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
>
>A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic competitor,
>where millions
>of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make U.S. corporations
>richer.
>
>Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate gain,
>it's a good
>country, even if that country tortures people?
>
>A: Right.
>
>Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
>
>A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government. People who
>criticized
>the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.
>
>Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
>
>A: I told you, China is different.
>
>Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
>
>A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China is
>Communist.
>
>Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
>
>A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.
>
>Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
>
>A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are sent
>to prison
>and tortured.
>
>Q: Like in Iraq?
>
>A: Exactly.
>
>Q: And like in China, too?
>
>A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other hand,
>is not.
>
>Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
>
>A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some laws
>that made
>it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business with Cuba until they
>stopped
>being Communists and started being capitalists like us.
>
>Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and started
>doing
>business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become capitalists?
>
>A: Don't be a smart-ass.
>
>Q: I didn't think I was being one.
>
>A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.
>
>Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
>
>A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam Hussein
>came to
>power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate leader
>anyway.
>
>Q: What's a military coup?
>
>A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a country by
>force,
>instead of holding free elections like we do in the United States.
>
>Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?
>
>A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is our
>friend.
>
>Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
>
>A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.
>
>Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by forcibly
>overthrowing
>the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate leader?
>
>A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he helped us
>invade
>Afghanistan.
>
>Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
>
>A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.
>
>Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
>
>A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men - fifteen of them Saudi Arabians -
>hijacked
>four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings in New York and
>Washington,
>killing 3,000 innocent people.
>
>Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
>
>A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive rule of
>the Taliban.
>
>Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off people's
>heads and hands?
>
>A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off people's
>heads and hands,
>but they oppressed women, too.
>
>Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back
>in May of 2001?
>
>A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job
>fighting drugs.
>
>Q: Fighting drugs?
>
>A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing opium
>poppies.
>
>Q: How did they do such a good job?
>
>A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban would
>have their
>hands and heads cut off.
>
>Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing
>flowers, that was
>OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off for other reasons?
>
>A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off people's
>hands for
>growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off people's hands for stealing
>bread.
>
>Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?
>
>A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy that
>oppressed
>women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were in public, with
>death by
>stoning as the penalty for women who did not comply.
>
>Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
>
>A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.
>
>Q: What's the difference?
>
>A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet
>fashionable
>garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.
>The burqa,
>on the other hand, is an evil tool of patriarchal oppression that covers all
>of a
>woman's body except for her eyes and fingers.
>
>Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
>
>A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are our
>friends.
>
>Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were from
>Saudi Arabia.
>
>A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.
>
>Q: Who trained them?
>
>A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.
>
>Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
>
>A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very bad
>man.
>
>Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
>
>A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion of
>Afghanistan
>back in the 1980s.
>
>Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald Reagan
>talked about?
>
>A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or
>thereabouts, and now
>they have elections and capitalism like us. We call them Russians now.
>
>Q: So the Soviets - I mean, the Russians - are now our friends?
>
>A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years after
>they stopped
>being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our invasion of Iraq, so
>we're mad
>at them now. We're also mad at the French and the Germans because they
>didn't help us
>invade Iraq either.
>
>Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?
>
>A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French fries
>and French
>toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.
>
>Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what we
>want them to do?
>
>A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.
>
>Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?
>
>A: Well, yeah. For a while.
>
>Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?
>
>A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him our
>friend,
>temporarily.
>
>Q: Why did that make him our friend?
>
>A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.
>
>Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?
>
>A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked the
>other way,
>to show him we were his friend.
>
>Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically becomes our
>friend?
>
>A: Most of the time, yes.
>
>Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an
>enemy?
>
>A: Sometimes that's true, too. However, if American corporations can profit
>by selling
>weapons to both sides at the same time, all the better.
>
>Q: Why?
>
>A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for America.
>Also,
>since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war is a godless
>unAmerican Communist.
>Do you understand now why we attacked Iraq?
>
>Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?
>
>A: Yes.
>
>Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?
>
>A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him what
>to do.
>
>Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because George
>W. Bush hears
>voices in his head?
>
>A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your eyes,
>make yourself
>comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.
>
>Q: Good night, Daddy.
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bbchris
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LarreeMP3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: How to describe G.W.Bush's actions to a child (long stor |
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Re-elect Bush 2004!
The man has my vote! The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist!
Coming soon... Baghdad Disneyland!
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droolymutt
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: How to describe G.W.Bush's actions to a child (long stor |
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brilliant, Goodison......
I saved that....
____________________________________________________________
"Re-elect Bush 2004!
The man has my vote! The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist!"
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uh. Isn't that a rather harsh thing to day about your own President?
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LarreeMP3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:38 pm Post subject: Drooly, Drooly, Drooly.... |
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What the heck do they teach kids about America in the classrooms outside of America? Must be some pretty scary stuff!
Re-elect Bush in 2004
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bbchris
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droolymutt
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Drooly, Drooly, Drooly.... |
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Outside the U.S. we get to see a little more non-American-censored-and-manipulated media.
Therefore the Global view comes from a very different perspective than that provided by CNN.
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LarreeMP3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:19 pm Post subject: That is pathetic, Drooly. |
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| I have THREE international news stands within walking distance from my pad. So don't tell me that our news is censored and manipulated. That is a lame, ignorant, and completely UNTRUE statement. We have access to EVERY perspective.
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LarreeMP3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: And Chris... |
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There is a HUGE difference between poking fun at our president and calling him a murderer and a terrorist. There is nothing funny about that at all.
YOU have mail!
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goodisonpark
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LarreeMP3
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:27 pm Post subject: Your thread is cool. |
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| I just feel obligated to defend my country. Especially on the 4th of July! No worries!
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sethr
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Drooly, Drooly, Drooly.... |
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What the heck do they teach kids about America in the classrooms outside of America? Must be some pretty scary stuff!
Yeah, the truth is really scaree, Laree.
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NumberOneWorld
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 10:12 pm Post subject: Re: Drooly, Drooly, Drooly.... |
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that was great... though the thought of GW having children made me shiver...
i wrote this in the first days of the invasion....
RING!
Saddam: hello?
GWB: Hey it's george...
SH: Hey george ... how's it going?
GWB: is ok.. you?
SH: pretty good... listen you came pretty close to hitting my summer house last night... what's up?
GW: ya sorry about that... we have to make it look good... btw, did you catch Putin on tv? what a goof...
SH: lol... well you know we owe him a lot of money and he thinks he'll never see it now that you're online...
GW: lol.. got that right... france too.. kiss your dough goodbye boys! that will show them...
SH: so what's up for today?
GW: probably lob a few more missles at some stuff... see my speech last night?
SH: no sorry i missed it.. went to bed early
GW: ya me too, right after CNN left.. man those guys go on and on... it's like they never read the briefing....btw... how's your room?
SH: is ok... i wanted a whirlpool bath but they didn't have one.. is ok though, switzerland is very nice this time of year... hold.. i have another call........ it's sharron... got to take it... call me back
GW: k....
the rest of it is here
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droolymutt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:38 am Post subject: Re: If Gore was president I would be... |
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Larree, I don't wanna fight you again on this, but there's a basic issue here I don't understand.
Would you support a leader, even if you knew in your heart that what they're doing is wrong?
I mean - there's a lot to be said for thinking patriotism and solidarity and loyalty....
But if it becomes unquestioning following of leaders....
Isn't that wrong?
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